IMO this dudes the greatest ever heavyweight, and i still dont think people realise how good this guy is.
ThAt aside, if he loses to Haye he will be rubbished, mocked, "oh the competition he had before was all dross" blah blah.
If he wins, the cries of "blown up cruiser weight dont mean ****, haye was a hype man " blah blah blah.
So financially Wlad wins, but legacy wise hes in a lose lose situation :(
But due to them being slavic the US will not credit the Klitsckos regardless.
Sure he will be uynifying if he wins but it will still be rubbished by the US media while they go back to their ****ty sports for thugs.
This is coming from one of the most racist idiot on this forum :bottle::bottle:
So financially Wlad wins, but legacy wise hes in a lose lose situation :(
You utterly ignore that Wlad will have the WBA belt and hence would have achieved what only Lennox did before (please correct me if I am wrong):
Holding 5 belts at the same time: IBO, IBF, WBA, WBO, RING
Since it's unlikely that Wlad will drop the WBA belt (as did Lennox to not face a southpaw) and since Wlad will try to unite the WBC belt (as soon as Vit retires), Wlad will supersede Lennox both in "length of reign and number of belts"
Thus the Haye-step is very important for Wlad.
But due to them being slavic the US will not credit the Klitsckos regardless.Sure he will be uynifying if he wins but it will still be rubbished by the US media while they go back to their ****ty sports for thugs.
Oh for fuc ks sake..
It all depends on how the fight pans out.
IF Haye stuns Wlad and has him in trouble early in the fight, then we could see a dramatic battle unfold where Wlad is finally given a lot of credit if he then recovers and outboxes Haye.
IF Wlad simply outscores Haye every round in a cautious fight (or knocks Haye out), then yes, people will probably complain that Haye was all hype.
Wlad still has some more interesting fights after this including Helenius, Povetkin, plus a handful of young prospects from UK, US, and various places in Europe just around the corner.
But I agree that there are no HW stars right now to really challenge Wlad or improve his resume very much.
a green vitali spanked lewis all over the ring and effectively retired him, what this version of wlad would do would be unpredinted to lennox.
I cant think of a heavy weight with wlads speed, athleticism and stregth to be able to rock with him.
I like the klitschkos... great fighters.... but vitali DIDNT spank lewis.. and lewis would have ko d wlad %100 lewis was as tall, fast and had a jab just as good as wlads so wlad wouldnt have been able to jab and box like he does he would have had to fight lewis like vitali did and he couldnt survive in that kind of fight with lewis.. maybe he would have had some success against the old version of lewis that vitali faced
Yes, ali struggled witha smaller weaker foes, ever getting clocked by couper, or robbing ken norton, ..
a green vitali spanked lewis all over the ring and effectively retired him, what this version of wlad would do would be unpredinted to lennox.
I cant think of a heavy weight with wlads speed, athleticism and stregth to be able to rock with him.
Ali's resume > Klit's brother combined
Prime Lennox > both prime brothers.
To be honest, If I was Wlad fan I wouldn't be to worried. They're finding themselves stuck by buying into the hype.
Wlad should expose and dispose of Haye.
I'd like to see Haye win, but I see this an unlikely result.
Haye backers are banking on one thing - the money shot. It's a slim chance.
lewis would have poleaxed wlad within 3 rounds prime v prime no question he would have been scared of wlad power and jumped on him early...as for vitali it took lewis a few rounds to warm up and get going after having 13 months out of the ring but when he got the range he was landing big power shots on vitali and cut him to bits
oh and imho...vitali would beat wladimir wlad may be a better technician but noit as rough and tough as vitali and vitalis chin is granite
While the HW division is lacky now days, its not Wladimir's fault. But greatest HW ever? Really?
Yes, ali struggled witha smaller weaker foes, ever getting clocked by couper, or robbing ken norton, ..
a green vitali spanked lewis all over the ring and effectively retired him, what this version of wlad would do would be unpredinted to lennox.
I cant think of a heavy weight with wlads speed, athleticism and stregth to be able to rock with him.
Same could be said for Haye; if he loses he's just a cruiserweight who had no business fighting the top heavyweight, if he wins then he only fought the 'weaker' brother'.
Truth be told, whoever wins will get credit as it's the toughest fight for both.
I strongly disagree. I like both Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye as fighters. The fact of the matter is that both are credible foes. Both have quality resumes and both bring something to the table.
Some might say that Haye talked himself into the fight. However, that has it's advantages for all involved. If Wladimir Klitschko manages to win, then it proves to casual fans that he beat the biggest mouth in the division. He looks like someone willing to face all comers. He'll have also brought together virtually every championship.
It's win-lose in it's purist form. If he loses, it means everything. Everything depends on the fashion in which this fight goes down. But, if he manages to stop Haye and erase any doubt, then he's probably more popular than he is now in America and even more popular in boxing in general.
I think he would get praised if he KO Haye in devastating fashion, Haye really has talked up this fight, He has brought so much hype to the fight so yes i think Wlad would get credited for this win, Haye looks like a genuine contender so i expect whoever wins to add to their legacy through this fight.
The closer the fight gets, the more Klitschko fans are talking of him losing. These are the same Klitschko fans that have labelled Haye as nothing but a bum for these past few years so the victory shouldn't even be in question.
relax man
Wlad wins decisively and no one will complain
unless Haye runs to lose a decision
but Wlad will KO him, and he'll get respect
hope your right mate.
But due to them being slavic the US will not credit the Klitsckos regardless.
Sure he will be uynifying if he wins but it will still be rubbished by the US media while they go back to their ****ty sports for thugs.
relax man
Wlad wins decisively and no one will complain
unless Haye runs to lose a decision
but Wlad will KO him, and he'll get respect
if he wins, he's basically undisputed HW champion
hard to lose with that accomplishment
no way for people to discredit it
But due to them being slavic the US will not credit the Klitsckos regardless.
Sure he will be uynifying if he wins but it will still be rubbished by the US media while they go back to their ****ty sports for thugs.