I just read about the Mayweather-Ortiz undercard which will happen on Mexican independance day. The undercard will feature Saul Alvarez, Morales and barrera as well as the Big main fight. It looks like one of the best cards in years.
What other great card have there been?
What about Judgement Night when Tyson and Holyfield fought for the first time:
At the Nynex arena in Manchester, people on the card included Danny Williams, Michael Gomez, Michael Brodie, Carl Thompson and Herbie Hide. Then Nigel Benn fought Steve Collins (WBO super middleweight title), Winky Wright fought Ensley Bingham (WBO light middleweight title), and Naseem Hamed defended his WBO featherweight title against Daniel Molina.
Then it switched to the MGM Grand in Vegas, and Ricardo Lopez defended his WBC title, Henry Akinwande fought Alexander Zolkin (WBO heavyweight title), Michael Moorer fought Frans Botha for the IBF belt and then Tyson took on Evander Holyfield for the WBA belt and lineal championship in Ring Magazine's FOTY 1996.
My nomination for all-time great card, certainly of the last 30 years. And I have the entire card on 7 precious DVDs including pretty much all the buildup and post-fight reaction. Beautiful!
This was when there were only single champions in each division, they were all great champions and, I believe there has never been another like it.
Azumah was always 1st or 2nd up on those cards. They were loaded compared to today. All of King's undercard guys would be headliners now. Ricardo Lopez defending his titles at 6pm pacific time, will never happen again.
Btw- The big 3 were all fractured by then but not to the point it is now. The term undiputed has been around for awhile.
The Don King cards of the early 90's were usually pretty stacked.
Example
Chavez/Randall
McClellan/Jackson
Norris/Brown
Nelson/Leija
Thats the equivalent of
Ward/Froch
Mares/Agbeko
Cotto/Margarito
Soto/Rios
Think about it. When Azumah Nelson is 1st or 2nd fight into a 4 or 5 fight event, against top level opponents, you're on to something good.
This was when there were only single champions in each division, they were all great champions and, I believe there has never been another like it.
Many years ago, I think around the 1960s there were 4 big time title fight on the same ahow. I think the promoter was Don King but am not certain. it was unheard of , since ONE title fight was the norm.
Some historian or old-timer on this site might have the details. I recall a picture n one of the magazines, -maybe RING or BOXING ILUSTRATED- where the names were painted on a cluster of rocks. it was HUGE.
Luis Rodriguez, the great Cuban rival of Emil Griffith was one of the fighters I think.
The Don King cards of the early 90's were usually pretty stacked.
Example
Chavez/Randall
McClellan/Jackson
Norris/Brown
Nelson/Leija
Thats the equivalent of
Ward/Froch
Mares/Agbeko
Cotto/Margarito
Soto/Rios
Think about it. When Azumah Nelson is 1st or 2nd fight into a 4 or 5 fight event, against top level opponents, you're on to something good.
Many years ago, I think around the 1960s there were 4 big time title fight on the same ahow. I think the promoter was Don King but am not certain. it was unheard of , since ONE title fight was the norm.
Some historian or old-timer on this site might have the details. I recall a picture n one of the magazines, -maybe RING or BOXING ILUSTRATED- where the names were painted on a cluster of rocks. it was HUGE.
Do you have a fever? ..morales..barrera..these guys did a lot for boxing, in their prime. Now they need to get paid, they are big names but they do not make for good fights now
Floyd cant sell that much against a BUM. He hasnt drawn close to that by himself dude.
If you think Floyd is a bigger draw than Canelo you must be dreaming. Im not Mexican but I have eyes and see how many people came out to see him against Rhodes (11k+) and what like 30 million watched?
Put Floyd vs Rhodes in his hometown, will 11k show up?
ortiz would ko the ginger boy. just sayin. and if ortiz is a bum then the ginger boys resume is nothing but bums
Floyd cant sell that much against a BUM. He hasnt drawn close to that by himself dude.
If you think Floyd is a bigger draw than Canelo you must be dreaming. Im not Mexican but I have eyes and see how many people came out to see him against Rhodes (11k+) and what like 30 million watched?
Put Floyd vs Rhodes in his hometown, will 11k show up?
I agree, but he's not fighting a bum man. He's fighting a young hungry champion. We all know Oscar made Floyd a star, and because Mayweather plays that villian role like no other he sells. What i'm saying is from a business standpoint, who cares why they buy as long as they buy. Nobody is worried about the why as long as the money is rolling in. That would be like me saying "I bought Pac vs Mosley cause it was supposed to be exciting, but because it wasn't you can't count that I bought the PPV."
Who cares why they buy the PPV, the point is they buy it you idiot. What are they supposed to be like "Oh Floyd sold 1.4 million for this PPV, but we gotta subtract 800K buys because those were probably the people just buying to see him lose". :dunce:
Floyd cant sell that much against a BUM. He hasnt drawn close to that by himself dude.
If you think Floyd is a bigger draw than Canelo you must be dreaming. Im not Mexican but I have eyes and see how many people came out to see him against Rhodes (11k+) and what like 30 million watched?
Put Floyd vs Rhodes in his hometown, will 11k show up?
Who cares why they buy the PPV, the point is they buy it you idiot. What are they supposed to be like "Oh Floyd sold 1.4 million for this PPV, but we gotta subtract 800K buys because those were probably the people just buying to see him lose". :dunce:
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Um.................. wut? Canelo is a bigger draw than Floyd, why would he fight on his undercard for? Dude can actually sellout an arena by himself and get all of mexico to watch it on tv. Floyd brings no people to arenas, he might sell some PPV but nobody buys the PPV to watch him fight, just to see him get knocked out.
Who cares why they buy the PPV, the point is they buy it you idiot. What are they supposed to be like "Oh Floyd sold 1.4 million for this PPV, but we gotta subtract 800K buys because those were probably the people just buying to see him lose". :dunce:
Barrera? Isn't he with Top Rank. I can't see that happening unless they did Morales-Barrera IV, which would be as pointless as Marquez-Vazquez IV was...Although it would still produce fireworks.
Um.................. wut? Canelo is a bigger draw than Floyd, why would he fight on his undercard for? Dude can actually sellout an arena by himself and get all of mexico to watch it on tv. Floyd brings no people to arenas, he might sell some PPV but nobody buys the PPV to watch him fight, just to see him get knocked out.