IMO Mayweather vs Cotto at this stage is a stupid fight. I don't know why so many people continue to insist that Floyd should fight Cotto. Why should Floyd fight Cotto? Unfortunately, Cotto has been damaged goods since the Margarito fight. Let's break down who Cotto has beat since the Margarito fight. Jennings (Please), Clottey (Clottey loses all his big fights and arguably beat Cotto), Foreman (Probably his best win of the bunch but Yuri is FAR from elite, Mayorga (Lol). This doesn't look like a guy who can compete with elite fighters anymore to me. I think most must only say that a Cotto Mayweather fight interests them so they could bash Floyd, there's no point. I'm a huge Floyd fan but I'd be pissed if he signed to fight Cotto! Floyd is better than that, Ortiz is a MUCH better opponent.
;10719653']All this thread shows me is how Cotto fans are so loyal to him. You guys still have "hope" and it's embarrassing
The same people who are interested in this fight, are the same people who will be the first to discredit Floyd after Floyd knocks him out. Yeah that's right, knocks him out. Cotto's defense has gotten so bad it's embarrassing. He leaves himself wide open down the pipe. Once Floyd loses respect for his power, Floyd will take him out. Hell ZAB JUDAH could of knocked him out if he wasn't just a front runner and threw more punches, and that "mythical" jab Cotto has will get countered all night.
This is a complete and utter mismatch at this point. I seriously give Cotto NO CHANCE AT ALL in the fight, he's doesn't have 1 punch power, and he isn't consistent with his pressure anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I still have tons of respect for Cotto. I've been watching his career for a long time and I've been a fan for a long time aswell. The guy ducks nobody. I understand that most of you have "hope" that Cotto is still on the top of his game, but it's not true. All this stuff people are saying "He only has trouble with guys who put pressure" no. He has trouble with people who can take his punch and a right hand. Plain and simple. Clottey showed us that, and he isn't known for his Margarito type pressure. Which comes to the Margarito fight, he won't get passed Margarito. Guarantee.
I hope you Cotto fans don't take my post the wrong way.
What trips me out is that I believe that at least HALF of the posters who voted yes on the poll would absolutely crucify Floyd if he fought Cotto now, and rightfully so imo.
No interest whatsoever, Cotto now is war torn and for me he brings nothing to the table in terms of competitiveness, I would rather pay to watch Ortiz fight Mayweather than a wartorn known name in cotto
mayweather/ortiz will be better imo, cotto doesn't seem to have it anymore to make it dangerous imo, but who knows, it could turn out pretty exciting. still, i see mayweather coming out with a UD
its crazy how u have to be so high on a fukking pedestal just to get a fight with mayweather. he automaticlly beats everyone who gets mentioed as someone floyd should/could fight and doesnt have to actually get in the ring with them and these so called boxing fans are cool with that. when cotto beat mosley in 2007 (floyds best win at 147 i might add) and he ko lil ricky hatton (dude got banged out by collazo & ran back down to 140) they both were hot, unbeaten and people still found ways to diss cotto as being a legit contender.
I haven't seen anything from Cotto since the Margarito fight that suggests that he could beat guys like Floyd, Sergio, or Manny. At the very least I would need to see Cotto beat someone like a Cintron, Alvarez, Martirosyan etc. to show me that he's ready to compete at an elite level again. This is no diss to Cotto, as I stated earlier he's a true warrior and I have mad respect for him. Floyd and Cotto should have fought after the Mosley and Hatton fights. I feel that it would be a b1tch move for Floyd to opt to fight Cotto now, and I'm a big Floyd fan. When there was talk about a Martinez vs Cotto fight popping off I was against it because I think Miguel could possibly get hurt.
;10719805']Now where would you rank Foreman and Mayorga?
That is completely irrelevant for Foreman. Obviously hes all about movement and hurting that knee completely ruined his career as he got easily defeated in his next fight. He was top 5 before that.
Mayorga has just as much case to be top 10 as anybody else after those 4 just because nobody sticks out and he did give #1 Cotto a pretty good fight one of Mayorga better losing efforts but Cotto still ran away with that fight.
Why?
1. Cotto
2. Cintron
3. Angulo
small drop
4. Dzinziruk
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig drop and the others can be switched around any which way.
Now where would you rank Foreman and Mayorga?
;10719731']Please name the top fighters right now at 154 pounds.
Why?
1. Cotto
2. Cintron
3. Angulo
small drop
4. Dzinziruk
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig drop and the others can be switched around any which way.
He is coming off two stoppage wins and got beat by the best fighter in the world a fight before. WTF you talking about? Now Mosley is shot because he can't even beat Sergio ****in Mora.
Mosley has been shot for years. He isn't even close to the same fighter he used to be back in his prime. No defense, great chin, and a big right hand. That's it.
I consider shot and washed up the same thing, so if that confuses you guys I apologize.
;10719711']What was Mosley after his draw to Mora? The number 2-3 WW? Get out of here with that trash man, Cotto hasn't looked even close to his prime self after that beating to Margarito. ACCEPT IT, STOP BEING IN DENIAL.
He is coming off two stoppage wins and got beat by the best fighter in the world a fight before. WTF you talking about? Now Mosley is shot because he can't even beat Sergio ****in Mora.
There was nobody else in the division besides Berto who might as well be ranked at 140 because they were the only people he would fight. Pretty easy #3 when you have a big name as Mosley.
I never saw anybody say hes still prime I said hes not shot. Do you even know what shot is? Roy Jones Jr is shot Shane Mosley is shot What has Cotto done to deserve to be called shot? He looked good against Foreman and what did you expect against a heavy puncher like Mayorga? Run into his power? He fought a smart fight and dominated. He's not drawing with these fights. He's still dominating so he's not shot but still not prime.
Please name the top fighters right now at 154 pounds.
i never said he had a glass chin but dude dont got no margarito type chin. so add that with his horrible defense, cotto would have had spit flying out of his mouth all night and probably could have ko'd him aswell, if not won a 12 round decision. u made it seem like williams would blow out cotto like he is a bum.
Paul Williams has a fantastic chin, he would of beat the living hell out of Cotto. His style alone would of given Cotto problems, and Cotto is so short that those shots to the head wouldn't be effective. Remember buddy, punching upwards takes alot of power away.
I really wanna have a serious debate with someone like you, but everytime I do you guys always bring back up. "COTTO ISN'T SHOT" that alone makes me question how long you guys have been watching Cotto.
i never said he had a glass chin but dude dont got no margarito type chin. so add that with his horrible defense, cotto would have had spit flying out of his mouth all night and probably could have ko'd him aswell, if not won a 12 round decision. u made it seem like williams would blow out cotto like he is a bum.
Hes just a hater. Cant waste no more time with him. Its one thing to say Cotto is close to be washed up but he sure as hell isn't shot like no roy jones or mosley. According to this guy if your not the top fighter your shot.
;10719711']What was Mosley after his draw to Mora? The number 2-3 WW? Get out of here with that trash man, Cotto hasn't looked even close to his prime self after that beating to Margarito. ACCEPT IT, STOP BEING IN DENIAL.
There was nobody else in the division besides Berto who might as well be ranked at 140 because they were the only people he would fight. Pretty easy #3 when you have a big name as Mosley.
I never saw anybody say hes still prime I said hes not shot. Do you even know what shot is? Roy Jones Jr is shot Shane Mosley is shot What has Cotto done to deserve to be called shot? He looked good against Foreman and what did you expect against a heavy puncher like Mayorga? Run into his power? He fought a smart fight and dominated. He's not drawing with these fights. He's still dominating so he's not shot but still not prime.
So he still would be #3 with them in the division. That makes you shot? Victor will lose to Floyd and Pac is he shot? Is Devon Alexander shot because hes 3rd best? lol I swear to god they shouldnt let kids with down syndrome post.
What was Mosley after his draw to Mora? The number 2-3 WW? Get out of here with that trash man, Cotto hasn't looked even close to his prime self after that beating to Margarito. ACCEPT IT, STOP BEING IN DENIAL.
what makes u think he would destroyed cotto???? paul is like margarito as far as volume of punches goes but has 1/3 the chin tony has. cotto could have ko him bro. quintana had spit flying out of his mouth when he beat him the first time they fought.
WTF, NO HE DOESN'T. Paul has an IRON chin. He's showed that many times. All because he got KOed by Sergio doesn't mean he has a glass chin. He got caught by a punch he didn't see coming. GTFO out of here with this bullsh!t man. You Cottostans are delusional at this point.
;10719700']The only reason why he is the top guy at 154 is because Martinez and Williams moved up. Face it son. Williams would of destroyed Cotto. Martinez would of knocked him out.
So he still would be #3 with them in the division. That makes you shot? Victor will lose to Floyd and Pac is he shot? Is Devon Alexander shot because hes 3rd best? lol I swear to god they shouldnt let kids with down syndrome post.