Not really though. Wink got robbed there.
On topic, Vargas. He went life and death in an absolute war with a prime Tito. That should really tell you all you need to know.
Exactly!!!!!!!
21 or 22 year old vargas beat winky wright. let's put this in perspective
Not really though. Wink got robbed there.
On topic, Vargas. He went life and death in an absolute war with a prime Tito. That should really tell you all you need to know.
Well Vargas was having legal issues. He got arrested and was going to court for something, I forget. And, already had taken opponents lightly like Winky Wright in a fight where he came out of shaped and unprepared. So he was making Main Events nervous and rushed him a bit.
But, at the same time Vargas was beating some solid good fighters. He was advanced for his age. Way more than what Alvarez is right now. The Tito fight, even though it was seen as a mismatch in the experience factor, Vargas was seen as having a great chance in beating Tito.
Remember to that Vargas was giving Tito some fits to, he even dropped him. It's a shame that he burnt out so early.
Just a little? :rofl:
Haven't you heard? Canelo is the next great Mexican fighter. :lol1:
Sarcasm :lol1:
He is a good fighter IMO but he's nothing to shout about or so he has proven so far.
I heard Vargas was rushed because of the life style he lived outside of the ring and Main Events feared they would never cash out on him.
Well Vargas was having legal issues. He got arrested and was going to court for something, I forget. And, already had taken opponents lightly like Winky Wright in a fight where he came out of shaped and unprepared. So he was making Main Events nervous and rushed him a bit.
But, at the same time Vargas was beating some solid good fighters. He was advanced for his age. Way more than what Alvarez is right now. The Tito fight, even though it was seen as a mismatch in the experience factor, Vargas was seen as having a great chance in beating Tito.
This would be a good fight.
I think I'd give the nod to Vargas as his defense was a bit better. Both are/ were heavy handed and have/ had a strong fighting spirit.
Canelo's chin is somewhat suspect in view due to the Jose Miguel Cotto fight.
It would be a terrific fight for as long as it lasted.:boxing:
VARGAS would have destroyed Saul. The only reason Vargas is not a force today is because he was rushed. People have got to understand that boxing is a very complicated sport. Its not like MMA,at all. In boxing You really have to work on perfecting everything, like footwork, head movement, Blocking, slipping, rolling, catching punches and picking them off. Stamina and speed, also heart, wich is nothing more than self belief. It takes time for a fighter to master or just be at 60% in all areas. Vargas was all blood and guts, but he had talent that could have catapult him to p4p status had they not rushed him. He wa not your typical hispanic fighter. He was more American in his style like delahoya. Boxing was his gift, but he never was allowed the time ti mature as a complete boxer and reach his maximum potential.
Vargas ****s him up, for 20 years old Vargas was a seasoned mature fighter.
Vargas could of gone onto BIG things if he hadn't been matched up real hard in his early career and been allowed to develop even further.
I think Canelo has a bit more technical skill, but Vargas had that extra gear to finish people off.
Canelo makes his combos extremely pretty, but doesn't close it out. Vargas would have had Rhodes out of there last night within 6.
I guess Canelo's measured calmness is a quality trait, but El Feroz just had a tenacity in him that lesser opponents wouldn't last very long.
Vargas..... I'm not sure who was his promoter or management team @ the time but they probably did the worst job possible nourishing his talent throwing him in the ring with prime Tito when Vargas was only in his early twenties.
Co-Sign.
And this is the very reason why i laugh or shake my head when i see guys on this forum posting about prospects who "Dont fight anybody" or "He sucks look at his resume" , "FIGHT SOMEBODY!" and the guy is 20-23 years old with loads of talent but needs to be groomed, next thing u know the guy gets mentally destroyed and then the same people who yelled "Fight Somebody" are the same ones that end up saying "Hey what happen to so and so?" or "Man he got rushed they should have took there time with him"...
;10714869']Feroz.
At the same time Fernando was one of the most wasted talents of all time. He was incredible in that ring at that age. Then he got thrown in with Trinidad and that all ended in one night.
Canelo isn't in the same league as Fernando was IMO.
I agree all the way. Vargas to fast and strong for Canelo.