Give a logical reason why FMJ would keep his fight night weight a secret.

His win against Mosley would be less impressive, because he was the same size? Yes, most people thought wifebeater was a smallish WW, but now we know he is not small WW, he is a WW. I suppose Pacquiao's performance against Mosley was MORE impressive, because, he waited until AFTER Mayweather kicked the shit out of him, eh? for the record, I never wanted the mosley fight... that was arum's idea.

You'll get no argument from me there. It IS annoying. But it's only important to people that want to argue on the internet. The gap in skill between Mayweather and Marquez was greater than the weight difference. The guy beats fighters, because he's better than they are. Not because he's bigger (though, the Marquez fight was pretty clearly a joke). If this were ANY other fighter in the world. ANY fighter not named Floyd Mayweather Jr., no one would say a word. Maybe you still have not gotten the drift of this discussion. This is about a fighter who appears to want fight only when he has an overwhelming advantage against his opponent and then pretends that the fight is even. You claim that he beat JMM because of his skills but can you, in all honesty, say that if they were the same size, reach, weight and age he could still beat JMM with just his skills? An honest and objective person would probably not give you a definitive answer because the true answer can only be settled in the ring. With regards to FMJ, he and his fans insist that he is the best but until now this remains a big question mark since he, for so many different reasons, has not fought the top fighters in his division when they were in their prime. It is about time that he shows what he is really made of without demanding to have all the advantages, because if he does not, he needs to be exposed.

This thread gives me a headache. I'm going out drinking.

cause wifebeater doesn't want people to know that he's putting on weight. he didn't want people to know he outweighed jmm by 10+ lbs on fight night and he doesn't want people to know that he was as big as mosley on fight night. if people knew, it would make his "wins" less impressive. Everyone knew that he was 10+ bigger than Marquez. This isn't rocket science. His win against Mosley would be less impressive, because he was the same size? Try and make a little sense, pull. I suppose Pacquiao's performance against Mosley was MORE impressive, because, he waited until AFTER Mayweather kicked the shit out of him, eh?

If FMJ, in his recent fights, weighs only a few pounds above the WW limit at fight night, why keep it a secret? Any "logical" reasons? cause wifebeater doesn't want people to know that he's putting on weight. he didn't want people to know he outweighed jmm by 10+ lbs on fight night and he doesn't want people to know that he was as big as mosley on fight night. if people knew, it would make his "wins" less impressive.

It does matter. Maybe not to the fighter and his fans who try to hide how big his advantage would be against his opponent. It matters to the smaller fighter because if he wins, it will be on record that he beat an atg fighter who outweighed him by a big margin. Without that, history will assume that when they fought it was on even terms. It will also expose this fighter for what he really is. No, it doesn't matter. Both fighters are REQUIRED to WEIGH IN within a certain weight. There are NO limits on what the fighters can weigh when they enter the ring. Therefore, there's really no reason to know what the fighters fight night weight is. They have to weigh in within the limit. That's as much on "even terms" as it gets. Talk to me about it when someone beats him. LOL @ "expose him for what he really is". And what is that, exactly? A fighter who re-hydrates? OH NO! Alert the media! This is such a stupid discussion. I can't believe it's gone on this long. "He should give his fight night weight, because the FANS want to know". Yeah, OK.

I am confident that Hatton outweighed Mayweather. Unofficial weights don't mean much because alot of the fighters weigh in on fight night with all their clothes plus shoes an stuff. I only take stock in it if the fighter has weighed in on fight night at the same weight multiple times. I do not think that one of them would have no clothes on fight night weigh-in, so the margin of error on fight night weigh-in would be minimal.

It doesn't matter. They both have to make an agreed upon weight. Once they do that, it's fair game. So what if "atg fighter A" weighs 15 pounds more than "atg fighter B" on fight night? What, exactly, is "atg fighter B" going to do? "Wait! Stop the fight! I can't be fighting a guy that's this much bigger than me!" They both make the 147 lb limit, they are both WW's. It does matter. Maybe not to the fighter and his fans who try to hide how big his advantage would be against his opponent. It matters to the smaller fighter because if he wins, it will be on record that he beat an atg fighter who outweighed him by a big margin. Without that, history will assume that when they fought it was on even terms. It will also expose this fighter for what he really is.

Margarito challenged him, Paul Williams challenged him. :pat:I hope Gamboa and Donaire doesn't challenge him, they might get their wish. Year 2011: Pacquiao is challenging him, Martinez is challenging him.....so what now? He need multiple tune-ups? Pretend that you're paying attention. You implied that he challenged "a lightweight". I just corrected you. I never said Margarito didn't challenge him.

He's been doing it since the De La Hoya fight. Get over it.

Marquez challenged him. He wanted a payday, he got one. Floyd's skill over Marquez > 2 pounds. Margarito challenged him, Paul Williams challenged him. :pat:I hope Gamboa and Donaire doesn't challenge him, they might get their wish. Year 2011: Pacquiao is challenging him, Martinez is challenging him.....so what now? He need multiple tune-ups?

So he can challenge another lightweight and cheat him on the scales again.:peeright: Marquez challenged him. He wanted a payday, he got one. Floyd's skill over Marquez > 2 pounds.

So he can challenge another lightweight and cheat him on the scales again.:peeright:

Well obviously he was and was much bigger but the fact that we have no unofficial weight makes it kind of annoying when some ppl on here want to still pretend he is this barely 150lb WW on FN which is clearly not the case anymore whether we have numbers to show it or not. You'll get no argument from me there. It IS annoying. But it's only important to people that want to argue on the internet. The gap in skill between Mayweather and Marquez was greater than the weight difference. The guy beats fighters, because he's better than they are. Not because he's bigger (though, the Marquez fight was pretty clearly a joke). If this were ANY other fighter in the world. ANY fighter not named Floyd Mayweather Jr., no one would say a word.

You don't think that fight night weights would give a better assessment in determining who has the bigger advantage? Would it be the same odds if atg fighter A weighs almost the same as atg Fighter B as in, if A is outweighed by B by around 15 lbs.? It doesn't matter. They both have to make an agreed upon weight. Once they do that, it's fair game. So what if "atg fighter A" weighs 15 pounds more than "atg fighter B" on fight night? What, exactly, is "atg fighter B" going to do? "Wait! Stop the fight! I can't be fighting a guy that's this much bigger than me!" They both make the 147 lb limit, they are both WW's.

Because he's not required by the Nevada commission to do so. Once the commission makes it mandatory then I am sure he will do so. Or maybe he'd just go fight somewhere else that has very little regulatory standards...maybe Texas. This. He just doesn't want to do it. He also didn't do it for the Oscar fight either, where Oscar surely would have outweighed him come fight night.

Because then people would see how he outweighed hatton and marquez by at least 20 pounds. I am confident that Hatton outweighed Mayweather. Unofficial weights don't mean much because alot of the fighters weigh in on fight night with all their clothes plus shoes an stuff. I only take stock in it if the fighter has weighed in on fight night at the same weight multiple times.

Armstrong didn't beat Garcia. it was a draw. Yes. But can you imagine the consequence had he won that fight? Until now people are still emphasizing the size and weight difference in that fight.

logical reason? they are unofficial. even uf he gave them, they could be made up. why waste time doing something that, in the end makes no sense. u guys are just sad. keep clinging to the baby back bull**** and u'll just keep exposing urselves as fake fans of the sport. I believe that ever since the Joey Gamache-Arturo Gatti fight there has been a limit on how much a fighter can rehydrate.. I could be in error.

1] So you would bet blind even if one fighter outweighs the other by as much as 15 lbs.? And you don't believe that difference in weights would be a factor in the betting odds? 2] If you are the smaller fighter, would you not want it in the record books that you beat an atg who weighed much more than you? Remember Armstrong v Garcia? 3] Where have you been lately? 4] Is that not what fans from both sides have been doing all this time? Armstrong didn't beat Garcia. it was a draw.