Just a question about mike Tyson's style..
Could he beat A slick defensive boxer like mayweather jr ? If so, what would Tyson need to do to win?
Let's say Tyson was 147 pounds not heavyweight..with the same devastating KO power and speed he had as a heavyweight!
Thanks
I think it's difficult to judge match ups saying 'what if so and so was this weight how would he fare against so and so'
Because were talking away a huge part of Tyson's game which is sheer strength and power.
There is no way of judging how he would fare against someone at 147 because we simply don't know how Mike would be at 147.
Mike Tyson was often against fighters who tried to outbox him. Albeit they weren't great fighters but they were solid fighters and he always destroyed them.
He was very good at cutting off the ring.
Mike's main issue was fighting people who weren't afraid of him and would hold there own against him. Mike had a real problem with this mentally.
Michael Spinks was a slick defensive fighter and he probably packed a better punch than Floyd does too.
the way to beat a defensive slickster is to swarm relentlessly. Tyson would've KOed Floyd at the same weight.
Look what ATG Castillo did and we all know he punches harder than Mike P4P.
Michael Spinks was not a defensive fighter, he was awkward and his defense was very good but that doesn't means he was a defensive boxer ala Mayweather or Locche which is what the OP is asking.
Spinks is a poor example for this especially considering he was past it.
ATG ?, Castillo ?. :thinking:
Tyson., before the head hunting, had no regard for his opponent defense. He'd have hit a guy like Floyd in the kidney and lower back everytime he bladed himself, and wouldn't have cared.
Thats what makes floyds defense so effective against the conventional stance. Your right hand isin danger of hitting floyd in the back and you'll be penalized.. so you end up needing a good front hand, or be southpaw. Because your power hand is useless or else you're penalized.
Mike wouldnt have cared. Proof of this was in sparring with Mccall (vids may still be up) McCall tried to stop the work numerous times, and even left the ring during a session because Mike kept hitting him in his back and hip, he kept complaining.
Thanks I'll check the vids!
Just a question about mike Tyson's style..
Could he beat A slick defensive boxer like mayweather jr ? If so, what would Tyson need to do to win?
Let's say Tyson was 147 pounds not heavyweight..with the same devastating KO power and speed he had as a heavyweight!
Thanks
Tyson., before the head hunting, had no regard for his opponent defense. He'd have hit a guy like Floyd in the kidney and lower back everytime he bladed himself, and wouldn't have cared.
Thats what makes floyds defense so effective against the conventional stance. Your right hand isin danger of hitting floyd in the back and you'll be penalized.. so you end up needing a good front hand, or be southpaw. Because your power hand is useless or else you're penalized.
Mike wouldnt have cared. Proof of this was in sparring with Mccall (vids may still be up) McCall tried to stop the work numerous times, and even left the ring during a session because Mike kept hitting him in his back and hip, he kept complaining.
prime tyson was slick as they come
How would you see a 147 pound version of Tyson against Floyd? KO?
tyson would be all over floyd :D prime tyson was a beast and i doubt mayweather would land a lot of straights on him....couldnt hit that man with a machine gun back then
how does Tyson win? Nasty KO?
tyson would be all over floyd :D prime tyson was a beast and i doubt mayweather would land a lot of straights on him....couldnt hit that man with a machine gun back then
P4P, a guy like Tyson would be helpless against a guy like Mayweather. Anyone who could box and had the strength to clinch has the basic tools to negate Tyson's strengths. Someone as skilled as Floyd would embarrass Tyson.
I gotcha!
WHat if he started going to the body of mayweather jr?
To an extent, he'd be the fighter that Jose Luis Castillo was in the first fight with Mayweather when he kept the fight close except better. He'd be stronger and faster.
He could attack the body on the inside and theoretically, he wouldn't allow Mayweather to tie him up. (I'm taking into account that both are in their primes.)
Tyson would land. He'd land enough to hurt Mayweather. Whether or not he finishes him is another story. But, to beat him, he'd attack the body and keep up the pressure. Keep his defense up and tight and swing hard. Tough fight to call though, really.
just stay on the attack, pressure, & ruff him up. Im not saying it would work but its possible, espically on a lesser pure boxer then Mayweather. Get in his chest & stay there. Tyson had the speed/power to do that. With that being said, you could also see Floyd just circling & easily keeping him on the end of his jab while landing blistering straight rights & uppercuts
I gotcha!
WHat if he started going to the body of mayweather jr?
just stay on the attack, pressure, & ruff him up. Im not saying it would work but its possible, espically on a lesser pure boxer then Mayweather. Get in his chest & stay there. Tyson had the speed/power to do that. With that being said, you could also see Floyd just circling & easily keeping him on the end of his jab while landing blistering straight rights & uppercuts