why did team manny lie about excepting drug testing??

how about this then; why did floydie lied/denied that there was a negociation between both camps and Ross Greenburg shot him down for lying? From fighthype: Hey Ben, Just wanted to say much respect for the videos you dropped. Ima huge mayweather fan, and its great hearing his side of events since all u hear now a days is just the biased opinion of everyone on manny's jock. If u get the opportunity Id really like u to ask floyd this question. I know for a fact (even before u dropped the first video) that manny was the reason that the first proposed fight didn't materialize. Following that, there was the drama that ensued with Top rank n bob saying that HBO is mediating the deal and mayweather's camp said there were no negotiations. Later on, Ross Greenberg from HBO said there were infact negotiations going on. What was up with that? I think al haymon was the one that said 'arum has lied before and he got a history of doing so.' Why didn't mayweather's camp simply say the original terms of hte contract (7 or 14 day blood test) is no longer effective and from here on out he is only interested in testing all the way up to the day of the fight. Instead of making the statement that there were no negotiations. The only reason I mentioned this, is whenever this debate comes up people always jump to that incident with haymon. I think mayweather is perfectly within his right to say that the second negotiations were not a continuation and they are back to square one. Anyways, mayweather is my favorite boxer, i think he would expose pacquioa in the ring. And i hope he gets into the ring soon and continues to prove his greatness. Much respect for to u for dropping the videos. peace, mohamed s. BT: Thanks Mohamed. To answer your question, in February of 2010, Floyd Mayweather actually DID make it crystal clear that the offer of a 14-day cutoff was no longer on the table and that, going forward, his terms for any fighter are full random blood and urine testing leading all the way up until the fight. One month prior to Pacquiao's fight with Clottey and three months prior to Floyd's fight with Mosley, he would tell David Mayo of the Grand Rapid's Press, "I gave him a chance, up to 14 days out. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can come get us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That's what it is." I don't think he can make it any more clearer than that. Furthermore, I think that's the reason why they don't consider Ross Greenburg passing love notes between Al Haymon and Bob Arum as a form of "negotiations". As far as Floyd is concerned, if Manny isn't willing to take the full random blood and urine testing leading all the way up until the bout - meaning no cut-off dates whatsoever - then there was never anything to negotiate. Ross Greenburg and Bob Arum may call that negotiating, but as far as Floyd is concerned, they were simply conversations. Besides, exactly how much of a "negotiation" could it have been when the two sides aren't even having direct communication with each other? With that explaination, I think you can see why FMJ said "there were no negotiations".

WTF!!! and what roid can't be detected in blood test 14days before the fight and right after the fight??? Is it Mannys special roid? :wtf1: Transdermal Testosterone(and other steroids less than 8 hrs) Testosterone Suspension Testosterone Propionate Testosterone Undecanoate EPO 12-18hrs

he said we"never agreed to testing".nuff said Like I told you in my previous post, let me know if the direct question was "Will Manny agree to random testing with no cutoff's if Floyd is ready to come out of vacation and fight Manny?" Or was it about past negotiations or about Mosley fight? You know that Manny HAS said that he will agree to testing ..... there is a video that all should be able to understand .... IT'S CLEAR FOR ALL THE REST OF US THAT MANNY AGREED!!! So all that Floyd had to do was call Manny instead of Ortiz BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!

Roach was not commenting on Manny vs Floyd future negotiations. It was either for the past negotiations or the Mosley fight itself. Meaning, if in the past or for the Mosley fight they don't care to be tested then it would be hypocritical of them to ask Mosley to do it. If it was a clear question such as the one directed at Manny about being tested for an upcoming Floyd fight then OK .... until then, try again! That video was quite clear by Manny saying I don't mind getting tested even between rounds .... this is to make it clear for everyone .... but there will always be the few that will still not be able to understand! The question you should ask yourself is, if Floyd really wanted to fight Manny next, why did he come out of retirement only once the Marquez fight became official? huh? he said we"never agreed to testing".nuff said

Mayweather called out Manny on fighthype before Pacquiao vs Marquez was signed. Manny rushed immediately to sign against Marquez once Mayweather showed his ring entrance outfit. :lol1: All Floyd keeps on saying is take the test.... Funny that he got his guys to talk to Ortiz but must have misplaced Manny's team's number, hey? Floyd also said recently that he wasn't quite ready to come back and therefore had no opponent in mind. Remember that? Floyd also tried to squash the Ortiz rumors as well. Nothing that came out of him made it sound that Team Manny should be prepared to get a call from Mayweather's side .... and as far as what has been said, Floyd never did!!!

but now they wanna say they dont beleive roach???wtf? Roach was not commenting on Manny vs Floyd future negotiations. It was either for the past negotiations or the Mosley fight itself. Meaning, if in the past or for the Mosley fight they don't care to be tested then it would be hypocritical of them to ask Mosley to do it. If it was a clear question such as the one directed at Manny about being tested for an upcoming Floyd fight then OK .... until then, try again! That video was quite clear by Manny saying I don't mind getting tested even between rounds .... this is to make it clear for everyone .... but there will always be the few that will still not be able to understand! The question you should ask yourself is, if Floyd really wanted to fight Manny next, why did he come out of retirement only once the Marquez fight became official? huh?

WTF!!! and what roid can't be detected in blood test 14days before the fight and right after the fight??? Is it Mannys special roid? :You_Rock_ can you reed son..you can clear steroids outta your stysem wayyyy before 14 days..but why am i even talking to an alt

why the 14 days???why the need to know when and when you wont be tested??and to answer your question you can get roids outta your system with in a day son WTF!!! and what roid can't be detected in blood test 14days before the fight and right after the fight??? Is it Mannys special roid? :You_Rock_

WTF!!! and what roid can't be detected in blood test 14days before the fight and right after the fight??? Is it Mannys special roid? :wtf1: why the 14 days???why the need to know when and when you wont be tested??and to answer your question you can get roids outta your system with in a day son

WTF!!! and what roid can't be detected in blood test 14days before the fight and right after the fight??? Is it Mannys special roid? :wtf1:

then he sued her to go away..lol Alot of things are really suspect about him and these situations. I have always found that anyone who refuses something so hardcore has an agenda to protect. Who know what his deal is but the fact is he has yet to test.

Flipside, why did Manny refuse DNA testing for the kid he had with the hooker? He just paid, without testing. Why won't he blood test at all? then he sued her to go away..lol

maybe arum should tell roach to shut up

Floydie has issues as well, his a drama queen. why is floydie beating women? why did floydie lied/denied and Ross Greenburg shot him down for lying? Does these make sense for you? Flipside, why did Manny refuse DNA testing for the kid he had with the hooker? He just paid, without testing. Why won't he blood test at all?

All Pacquiao has to do is take the tests. That's all he had to do, with that same goofy smile that all his stans love so much.

It is true that team Pac always come out with contrasting statments so It's hard to take what they say seriously. But, in result of this it means you must give every comment as much validity as the other. Meaning when they say they will take it, it has as much credibility as this one that Roach has claimed. You can't just pick and chose which statement you like. I just don't know what to believe when it comes to this because their stance has been changed over and over again. They can say whatever the media and fans want to hear. Doesn't mean they will actually do it. They would've done it already if they really wanted to.

It is true that team Pac always come out with contrasting statments so It's hard to take what they say seriously. But, in result of this it means you must give every comment as much validity as the other. Meaning when they say they will take it, it has as much credibility as this one that Roach has claimed. You can't just pick and chose which statement you like. I just don't know what to believe when it comes to this because their stance has been changed over and over again.

Excepting and Accepting are two different words mate, what do you really mean? LOL forget it Larry just enjoy your thread! Fukkin stans! :lol1: yea try harder next time

At least I said no disrespect Larry. We know too well the answer to your so called question. And look at how your thread went all along, you are the one answering your own thread question. :lol1: Nice try for a bait thread! You own yourself Larry, spell correctly, for starters. No hate mate. who cares bout spelling???lol...

whos talking bout a damn lawsuit??? We'll all be talking about it when the maynever waves the white flag, this court case will eventually end.. GBP has fold their cards. The slick black american boxer will get TKO in this lawsuit.