If Ortiz can be out boxed by Lamont Peterson

naw hes the same fighter...did his mind change or Ring IQ change from the move up in weight? His skillset is the same, but his size, stamina, strength, power, punch output, and energy level all got better... which means, he isn't... the same fighter.

Ortiz has NO CHANCE.. Golden Boy has NO BIG PPV's, they through Ortiz out to the lion cause all of their big names have jumped **** or arent PPV worthy enough for big numbers. Ortiz was beat by a C- fighter in Maidana, Out Boxed by Peterson and beat an over rated Berto.. Floyd by UD over Ortiz.. Pac slaughters Ortiz into a stoppage. Even Cotto, Clottey, Marg, and Shane at this stage all beat Ortiz.. Floyd fans have been bamboozled, but Floyd dont care, as long as you buy his PPV's so he can count his money..

ya and then a lot of ppl on floyd's team said that was bullsh1t so...who knows. i hope it's true tho. i just wanna c a competitive fight. OH I BELIEVE IT! Peterson they way he moves and the way he gets extremely low to avoid punches, that would give ANYBODY PROBLEMS But Spar is your chance to experiment and try different things and to see what would work and what probably wouldn't...so yes it is very possible that Peterson did well against him...IN A SPARRING SESSION!

Peterson is a DAMN GOOD FIGHTER, he sparred with Mayweather and a lot of people say he did well against him...but SPARRING IS SPARRING! But Lamont Peterson would give a lot of those 140 fighters problems, he would have gave Khan MAJOR PROBLEMS if Khan would have taken that fight and didn't try to Low Ball him with the Money Only problem with Peterson is that he doesn't have any Power and he can be a little clumsy with his footwork in that ring but Ortiz struggling with Peterson is not as bad as people are trying to make it out to be...I think a lot of those guys in that 140 Division really don't want nothing to do with him, Bradley and Ortiz had the BALLS to fight him, the others will try to avoid him as much as they can Peterson would probably out-box Alexander and Maidana and I think he would give Zab and Khan some problems

It could be safe to say that Jr WW. Ortiz and WW Ortiz are two different animals... Hard to say off of one fight, but that one fight showed me an entirely different fighter. Exactly, better stamina, bigger, stronger. Reminded me of Cotto when he moved up to the WW division. Now heart, I'm still on the fence with that.

So Floyd who A) hits harder than Peterson B) has more skill than Peterson should be able walk right over him. I'll give some credit to the whole Ortiz was weight drained at 140 but honestly, it didn't seem like he physically couldn't keep up with Chino or Peterson, it seemed he couldn't keep up mentally. Kid seems to get frustrated and come on that is Floyd's greatest ability IMO the ability to frustrate opponents. I wouldn't say Peterson outboxed Ortiz as much as Ortiz stopped fighting because everybody thought he had the fight won. Lamont didnt do much latter in the fight its just that Ortiz did a lot less then lamont

Why would he stand a chance against Floyd? Peterson can't break wind with his punches and yet somehow broke Ortiz's will. Do people really think Lamont Peterson is a top level fighter? Clean boxer but nothing special. I like Ortiz and he is fun to watch but really come on now, do his skills really hold up? So Floyd who A) hits harder than Peterson B) has more skill than Peterson should be able walk right over him. I'll give some credit to the whole Ortiz was weight drained at 140 but honestly, it didn't seem like he physically couldn't keep up with Chino or Peterson, it seemed he couldn't keep up mentally. Kid seems to get frustrated and come on that is Floyd's greatest ability IMO the ability to frustrate opponents.

Thats what I mean when I say that this could look like Gatti, May will see that Ortiz has no defense and cant get away from his combos and hopefully he bombards him with an offensive fight from Mays perspective....I wanna see Mayweather outclass and make a statment in this fight............. :boxing: That fight was one of Gattis last fights, he had already been through three wars with Ward, de la hoya, robinson, and others. Not the same Gatti. google lamont peterson sparring mayweather victor can win, he just needs the right gameplan, lot of head movement, fast thinking and aggression like in the hatton fight and when clinched he needs to rough house the **** out of mayweather and just go berserk to show his will and strength.

Peterson got a gift draw so your arguement is pointless. I can see you never boxed cause wieght draining your self hamper your performance. Ortiz couldn't make that wieght class anymore if he could he would have knock Peterson out. I bet your one of thoses idiots that was mouthing out that Berto was going to make easy work out of Ortiz No one got a gift in that fight,it was the fairest scorecard that could be giving tbh..A fight that close can't be a robbery or a gift.. BTW I had it a draw on the night of the fight,but watching it back Peterson won that fight by a rd imo..

has anyone else noticed the erect penis inside of boxing trunks during the peterson bouts? if anthony had that effect i think he would have stopped rios

i've noticed in a lot lamont peterson's fights that his opponents are totally erect for a good portion of the bout. if ortiz took care of that unibrow and gave peterson a boner instead of vice versa, i doubt floyd would be done playing hungry hungry hippos. god damn, i love the sweet science.

When Ortiz fought on the inside against Peterson, he knocked Peterson down twice and basically dominated him. Peterson's reaction to that was to hold on the inside, and Ortiz (possibly becuz he was weight drained) didn't have an answer to that. And for whatever reason (corner apparently told him to, possibly to avoid being clinched) he started trying to box on the outside, which is when Peterson started counter him. He continued that all the way until round 10, where he realized he needed to stay on the inside, and all through that round he beat Peterson around the ring. Peterson didn't do anything on the inside except get beat up and clinch. The only time he countered was on the outside over Ortiz's pathetic jab and lunging straight left. U see that with Berto in round 6, Ortiz can't get on the inside, so he's getting beat to the punch everytime then eventually knocked down (Which Floyd does not have the power to do, Ortiz would probably give him even less respect and bulldog his way to the inside where he will dominate Floyd no doubt). If u can't see any stylistic change between Ortiz/Peterson and Ortiz/Berto than it seems u simply lack that ability. Peterson wouldn't let him on the inside, that's the difference. Berto doesn't have that ability.Ortiz isn't that good on the inside anyway. I believe he started to box with Peterson because Peterson wasn't allowing him to fight his fight. If Ortiz lunges in and trys to bumrush his way to Floyd he is going to get countered to death. And Ortiz will not dominate Mayweather on the inside. Explain to me his stylistic change? I can't see it. Like I said, if Berto had the ability to counter like Peterson does he would have also given Ortiz a few problems. The fact Berto is remarkabely easy to hit makes it seem like something that isn't. We will see in September.

People seem to believe Ortiz has changed his style since Peterson. I don't believe that. The reason he was more aggressive against Berto is because Berto isn't a counter puncher and wasn't punishing his mistakes like Peterson was. Mayweather isn't going to allow Ortiz to fight like he did against Berto without getting punished. I garantee Ortiz will back up at times Vs. Mayweather when his plan A doesn't work. When Ortiz fought on the inside against Peterson, he knocked Peterson down twice and basically dominated him. Peterson's reaction to that was to hold on the inside, and Ortiz (possibly becuz he was weight drained) didn't have an answer to that. And for whatever reason (corner apparently told him to, possibly to avoid being clinched) he started trying to box on the outside, which is when Peterson started counter him. He continued that all the way until round 10, where he realized he needed to stay on the inside, and all through that round he beat Peterson around the ring. Peterson didn't do anything on the inside except get beat up and clinch. The only time he countered was on the outside over Ortiz's pathetic jab and lunging straight left. U see that with Berto in round 6, Ortiz can't get on the inside, so he's getting beat to the punch everytime then eventually knocked down (Which Floyd does not have the power to do, Ortiz would probably give him even less respect and bulldog his way to the inside where he will dominate Floyd no doubt). If u can't see any stylistic change between Ortiz/Peterson and Ortiz/Berto than it seems u simply lack that ability.

People seem to believe Ortiz has changed his style since Peterson. I don't believe that. The reason he was more aggressive against Berto is because Berto isn't a counter puncher and wasn't punishing his mistakes like Peterson was. Mayweather isn't going to allow Ortiz to fight like he did against Berto without getting punished. I garantee Ortiz will back up at times Vs. Mayweather when his plan A doesn't work.

He fought Peterson as if he had Oscar De La Hoya's boxing skill. HE ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT. He tried to box Peterson from the outside, and that resulted in him getting outboxed. I guess he realized that in the Peterson fight, and changed his style. Now he's an inside fighter... Basically a brawler. And Floyd never fought a brawler with that kind of power. I'm gonna completely ignore the whole "southpaw" thing, becuz that won't really matter. But everything else will...

If ortiz's opponent doesn't brawl with Ortiz, then Ortiz doesn't get the opportunities to land big punches

Maidana, and Peterson >>>>> Berto...

You gauge that on one fight at ww? Mayweather is going to make Ortiz look like a amateur. Ortiz and Berto were just landing bombs, with absolutely no regard for any solid defense. He's up against the best defensive fighter in this era. It's a walk in the park for Mayweather. Thats what I mean when I say that this could look like Gatti, May will see that Ortiz has no defense and cant get away from his combos and hopefully he bombards him with an offensive fight from Mays perspective....I wanna see Mayweather outclass and make a statment in this fight............. :boxing:

It could be safe to say that Jr WW. Ortiz and WW Ortiz are two different animals... Hard to say off of one fight, but that one fight showed me an entirely different fighter. You gauge that on one fight at ww? Mayweather is going to make Ortiz look like a amateur. Ortiz and Berto were just landing bombs, with absolutely no regard for any solid defense. He's up against the best defensive fighter in this era. It's a walk in the park for Mayweather.

It could be safe to say that Jr WW. Ortiz and WW Ortiz are two different animals... Hard to say off of one fight, but that one fight showed me an entirely different fighter. berto is untested too. maidana might be able to fuk up berto too. i think everyones getting carried away with one decent victory over an untested fighter in berto. lets not forget ortiz is on a 1-1-1 streak.