Martinez confirms the WBC is letting Chavez Jr have a volutary defense first

at what point did jccjr become tye fields around here?

I see the thread went exactly as expected. Bravo, kids. Martinez would beat the breaks off of Chavez...if the fight gets announced, I'll seek you out....500 Mill on Martinez to break the chump's heart. Dude isn't dodging anything....it takes little skill to see that Suliman is a crooked toolbag and doesn't want Martinez to fight Chavez. Dude knows that he can make plenty of money off sanctioning fees associated with Chavez's fights- he can't do that if Martinez has the belts because Martinez doesn't have the name recognition that Chavez does. Good attempt at distorting the truth though. :haha: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=162189&dateline=1303093682 This pic says it all. Martinez is so good, he'll undoubtedly get all the belts and the commissions can't make money if one guy has ALL the belts. They want the belts spread around.....money makes the world go around. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=120097&dateline=1299289420 You are an absolute lunatic.

So Jose is going to let Jr slide huh? What a shock. Once you get the title "champ" you should have to fight the best. Sergio was next in line. THIS is another example of why boxing will never grow.

heres a sad reality check for sergio:.....he needs to get back down to earth...he is not a suprestar yet or some kind of a long time world beater......all of those 15 minute of fame has gone to his head that he acts a a damn atg now criticizing people who sh1ts on his resume bar none..... and also sergio, you can not crticized people who has way better acoomp than you...that is a rule of thumb so get back to reality, please!......you are like a damn beggar crticizing the king just coz you won $200 from a scratch ticket.....

Ok, then forget about the paycheck, he's still making a challenge to the champion, since when that's wrong? Yeah Rubio is stronger, but he's not the champ, if he wins a lot of people would only say that he's a bum. Now if he beats Chavez Jr also a lot of people will say he was a bum, but he was a bum with a championship. The thing is that at the moment anything is bad for Martinez. If he challenges Pac (#1 P4P), then Pac is a midget. If he challenges Floyd, then Floyd is also just a WW. If he challenges Chavez Jr, he's a bum. Now people are just saying "Get up to 168", he has had only 4 fights at MW, there are still a lot of MW that he can get in the division, the thing is that none of them want business with Martinez because he's fighting very well at the moment.

the problem is dibella. dibella is so dependent on hbo. why not get sergio some fights on showtime or even espn? problem is dibella doesn't want to spend money on serg. yeah, sergio is pretty much screwed being stuck with dibella. he spent too much time in argentina and then spain doing absolutely nothing. and at this point of his career, he can show his age on any given night, dude's a big gamble for anyone to deal with. as a fan, i just want him to go after all the belts in the mw division, it's his best bet to earn recognition/paydays.

I agree, Rubio would actually beat Chavez by KO. The only thing I don't agree with is the fact that people are criticizing that much Maravilla for wanting a fight with Chavez Jr. I mean he's the champ. If he's going to fight another champ I would prefer actuale Geale, I think it would be more even but still I dont think he could beat Martinez. bro , you kinda ansewred yourself there ...you said rubio is a tougher oppponent, then is why is sergio going for junior when it is a common knowledege it is an easy fight for him.....becuase he wants to get paid?....everyone wants to get paid..but it takes time ...sergio is not a long time world beater..he only got 2 good wins...its cool that he wants to get paid asap, but no one should be surprised why he is gtting crititiced.....he deseres that crititcism man......think of his hypocrsy too lately..he says pac fights dead men but he wnats cotto...i mean cmon, sergio is good but he aint exmpted to crticsm just coz he had agood year.....lol.....

couldn't agree with you more... the problem is dibella. dibella is so dependent on hbo. why not get sergio some fights on showtime or even espn? problem is dibella doesn't want to spend money on serg.

he just needs to keep fighting. fight whoever he can get. eventually the big payday will come. he's doing too much begging for fights. he's the middleweight champion. he shouldn't have to beg. begging floyd and pac is one thing. but then cotto...... now it's chavez. just fight. tell your promoter to get you fights. couldn't agree with you more...

run chavez run!!!!

oh yes... rubio is way better than a damn junior.....and yes pirog is a world champ...he is as legit of a champ as sergio was at 154......he is who sergio should be fighting....sergio is critcesd beacuse he only have 2 good wins and wants an easy payday from then on.....sergios hypocirsy is no secret either.... I agree, Rubio would actually beat Chavez by KO. The only thing I don't agree with is the fact that people are criticizing that much Maravilla for wanting a fight with Chavez Jr. I mean he's the champ. If he's going to fight another champ I would prefer actuale Geale, I think it would be more even but still I dont think he could beat Martinez.

And people wonder why they say the sanctioning bodies full of ****. SMFH

Oh so you think a fight like Maravilla - Rubio would be great? Maravilla - Pirog? Is Rubio holding a championship belt? Is Pirog holding a championship belt? I mean c'mon every day I see how a lot of people criticize a lot of boxers for fighting bums and not the champions, now that Martinez actually wants a fight with the champion then he's also criticized? oh yes... rubio is way better than a damn junior.....and yes pirog is a world champ...he is as legit of a champ as sergio was at 154......he is who sergio should be fighting....sergio is critcesd beacuse he only have 2 good wins and wants an easy payday from then on.....sergios hypocirsy is no secret either....

:lol1: i'm sure if he fought all the top mws everyone would just say the division is talentless and unknown, but it's whatever, as long he goes after the belts. he just needs to keep fighting. fight whoever he can get. eventually the big payday will come. he's doing too much begging for fights. he's the middleweight champion. he shouldn't have to beg. begging floyd and pac is one thing. but then cotto...... now it's chavez. just fight. tell your promoter to get you fights.

blah blah blah he's the middleweight champion. fight some fucking middleweights. funny the only middleweight he wants to fight is a guy that most people don't think is very good and barely won a belt last weekend. :lol1: i'm sure if he fought all the top mws everyone would just say the division is talentless and unknown, but it's whatever, as long he goes after the belts.

I agree could you imagine if Sergio was promoted by golden boy or top rank, he would at least be fighting on PPV, i feel like Sergio has never been properly promoted. The guy aint getting any younger and he isn't getting the fights nor the money he deserves. It's easy to blame the promoter, but the best fighters in the world don't want to fight him. You don't see the best fighters in the world calling him out for a fight and he's always calling out guys for a fight. You don't see Money, Manny, Cotto, etc. calling him out and asking for a fight. I don't even think guys like Margacheato and Chavez Jr. want anything to do with Martinez.

you just named a bunch of guys a lot better than chavez. wouldn't fighting one of them be better? duh. Oh so you think a fight like Maravilla - Rubio would be great? Maravilla - Pirog? Is Rubio holding a championship belt? Is Pirog holding a championship belt? I mean c'mon every day I see how a lot of people criticize a lot of boxers for fighting bums and not the champions, now that Martinez actually wants a fight with the champion then he's also criticized?

Sergio Martinez, in the very first line no less, has publicly admitted he has brokered an arrangement to avoid fighting Chavez next. He does not want to fight Chavez, it is the most transparent ducking in history. It takes great skill not to notice that is precisely what he said. But fear not the Sergio mafia are up to this momentous challenge. I predict this inconvenience, you know a blatant admission from their hero, will be swept away and we'll hear all kinds of greats tales about how the WBC, HBO, the UN and the United States government are screwing poor Martinez. Martinez would beat the breaks off of Chavez...if the fight gets announced, I'll seek you out....500 Mill on Martinez to break the chump's heart. Dude isn't dodging anything....it takes little skill to see that Suliman is a crooked toolbag and doesn't want Martinez to fight Chavez. Dude knows that he can make plenty of money off sanctioning fees associated with Chavez's fights- he can't do that if Martinez has the belts because Martinez doesn't have the name recognition that Chavez does. Good attempt at distorting the truth though. :haha: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=162189&dateline=1303093682 This pic says it all. Martinez is so good, he'll undoubtedly get all the belts and the commissions can't make money if one guy has ALL the belts. They want the belts spread around.....money makes the world go around. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=120097&dateline=1299289420

manny and floyd are the only two fighters above him in the p4p list, and both have "junior middleweight" bouts on their records. chavez has his old belt. those are the best 3 fights financially for him besides cotto at 154. he's willing to fight pac & may at jmw. i'm sure if pirog or any other mw could sell fights, he'd challenge them too. i'm not agreeing with serg, but his goal is to become p4p no.1 and he feels like may and pac can meet him at jmw for a clash. he's not calling out berto, zaveck, or senchenko, he's calling out the only two guys above him on the p4p list and the best financial fight at mw for him blah blah blah he's the middleweight champion. fight some fucking middleweights. funny the only middleweight he wants to fight is a guy that most people don't think is very good and barely won a belt last weekend.

the best in his last 3 fights? homeboy serg is the middleweight champ and has fought 1 real middleweight. none after he won his belt. fighting chavez is NOT fighting the best. there are several middleweights who deserve a title shot against sergio more than chavez. but of course serg is not planning to fight them because he wants chavez and a bunch of small welterweights. manny and floyd are the only two fighters above him in the p4p list, and both have "junior middleweight" bouts on their records. chavez has his old belt. those are the best 3 fights financially for him besides cotto at 154. he's willing to fight pac & may at jmw. i'm sure if pirog or any other mw could sell fights, he'd challenge them too. i'm not agreeing with serg, but his goal is to become p4p no.1 and he feels like may and pac can meet him at jmw for a clash. he's not calling out berto, zaveck, or senchenko, he's calling out the only two guys above him on the p4p list and the best financial fight at mw for him