Is max kellerman still better about the chavez whitaker decision?

Martinez was rightly stripped for refusing to fight Chavez, he has been ducking him for years and I'm glad the Wbc took action. Now we've got a man who'll fight any challenger, anywhere, a man who is articulate, a man who is good looking and a legitimate pound-for-pound fighter. Chavez is the undisputed middleweight champion of the world. 43 men have tried. Would anyone hazard a guess as to what happened? 43 men failed. :bravo: Magnificent post. ATG post by an ATG poster.

Martinez was rightly stripped for refusing to fight Chavez, he has been ducking him for years and I'm glad the Wbc took action. Now we've got a man who'll fight any challenger, anywhere, a man who is articulate, a man who is good looking and a legitimate pound-for-pound fighter. Chavez is the undisputed middleweight champion of the world. 43 men have tried. Would anyone hazard a guess as to what happened? 43 men failed.

All Max did was speak the truth. Cuz there is no way in hell anyone in their right mind would consider Chavez Jr. to be the real legitimate middleweight champion. Guess the truth hurts. I'm glad that Max brought up Sergio's name too. Didn't help that Chavez Jr. gave the typical Arum fighter answer: " I'll fight whoever Arum puts in front of me." Which we all know Arum would never sacrifice his little ticket seller to get eaten up by a fighter he doesn't promote.

Because it's true. The entire boxing community recognizes JCCJR as a fraud and a mere shell of the fighter his father was, and a fighter he will never live up to. He won a belt that was stripped from the real champion and he won it from a guy that will not be remember by the sport. He has fought bum after bum and has not stepped up to fight a quality opponent in his entire career, which I think is at like 40 fights now. Chavez Jr. is another black mark on the sport and everybody who knows boxing knows this - he is another tailor made fraud. If he fought any top contenders at 154 or 160 he would get utterly dominated. Props to Kellerman for speaking the truth. saul alvarez. minus the legions of dumb mexican fans and larry merchant.

Better or bitter? Oh and what is prestigest? This is a boxing forum not a 50 year old virgin high tech computer geek forum c0ck sucka, beat it.

I kind of agree with Max. However i dont think JCJR is a great fighter and i saw him losing this past Saturday. Im not impressed at all..

We all know he had pernell whitakers nuts in his mouth. Did his hate for chavez transcend down to jr? Maybe I'm missing something but y did he say "chavez jr is not the champion of anything except for that sanctioning belt, hes not a world champ." I never saw a commentator act that way about a fighter that just won the most prestigest belt. Better or bitter? Oh and what is prestigest?

I agree hes nothing special but to say hes not a world champ after he won a world championship belt is ubsurd. Like roy jones said he does not determine who fights for the belts. He's a 160 champ like Pacquiao is a 154 champ. It's paper fraudulence.

But it's the truth. Do you disagree with this? They had to strip Sergio of the title and give it to a medicore fighter (Zbik) for Chavez to defeat. I agree hes nothing special but to say hes not a world champ after he won a world championship belt is ubsurd. Like roy jones said he does not determine who fights for the belts.

:rofl: @ most prestigious belt

I think max is worse now...not better...

Ok but why didnt nobody say this about Zbik when HE inherited that title. They did, nobody cares enough to even talk about that though as Sergio's name was in the headlines. Now that Chavez Jr has basically inherited it himself, nobody cares and he does not deserve to be talked about as a champion who won a belt but a guy who inherited a phony title and nothing more. You want a 160lb belt you need to win it from Sergio.

We all know he had pernell whitakers nuts in his mouth. Did his hate for chavez transcend down to jr? Maybe I'm missing something but y did he say "chavez jr is not the champion of anything except for that sanctioning belt, hes not a world champ." I never saw a commentator act that way about a fighter that just won the most prestigest belt. But it's the truth. Do you disagree with this? They had to strip Sergio of the title and give it to a medicore fighter (Zbik) for Chavez to defeat.

Ok but why didnt nobody say this about Zbik when HE inherited that title.

It might have something to do with the fraud of a career Chavez Jr. has had.

We all know he had pernell whitakers nuts in his mouth. Did his hate for chavez transcend down to jr? Maybe I'm missing something but y did he say "chavez jr is not the champion of anything except for that sanctioning belt, hes not a world champ." I never saw a commentator act that way about a fighter that just won the most prestigest belt. Because it's true. The entire boxing community recognizes JCCJR as a fraud and a mere shell of the fighter his father was, and a fighter he will never live up to. He won a belt that was stripped from the real champion and he won it from a guy that will not be remember by the sport. He has fought bum after bum and has not stepped up to fight a quality opponent in his entire career, which I think is at like 40 fights now. Chavez Jr. is another black mark on the sport and everybody who knows boxing knows this - he is another tailor made fraud. If he fought any top contenders at 154 or 160 he would get utterly dominated. Props to Kellerman for speaking the truth.