I say true , the winner would have cleared out probably the deepest most talented division in the sport. The winner would have probably a better resume than Martinez and fought more livelier fighters than either Pacquiao or Mayweather have fought.
Let's say if Andre Ward wins the super six final, he won't be top 5? Yet Nonito Donaire is top 5 P4P for beating a couple of bums & scoring 1 good victory over Montiel?:wtf:
Agree with statement. Seriously, can we drop Donaire out of the Top 5 P4P list?
Winner of Super Six should at least be at Top 10. Winning against Bute would equal Top 5. Sounds fair to me. Even though Bute is not listed in the mythical P4P list we still have to consider him a top champion of the Super Middleweight division and beating him would earn anyone their stripes and accolades.
FALSE. Ward hasn't done enough to be that high yet, not when Mayweather, Pacquiao and Martinez are around. And if Froch wins, well, that's just laughable. Don't get me wrong. Froch is a good solid fighter, but best in the world? Wow. :rofl:
Top 5 yes. Top 1 absolutly not.
Pacquiao his fighting two first ballot HOFers this year. How many are these guys fighting? Author Abraham? Glen Johnson? Come on.
Fighting HOF'ers at the tail end of their careers does not make you a top 1 P4P fighter, it enhances your resume for people who are looking for notable fighters you fought without taking anything else in to consideration.
Wlad should fight Ali and Frazier, after he beats Haye. That way he'd fight two ATG's and become the #1P4P fighter.
Top 5 yes. Top 1 absolutly not.
Pacquiao his fighting two first ballot HOFers this year. How many are these guys fighting? Author Abraham? Glen Johnson? Come on.
P4P #6, skipping Segura, Wongkongtongponglongchong, and Bradley goes down one. If Ward beats Froch, he should be moved up from 9 to 5. If Ward beats Bute, he should be top 3. The only way I see Ward/Froch being P4P #1 is if they beat Bute and the winner of Dawson/Hopkins at 175.
And even then, it's more because no one else is doing anything. Pacquiao beating Marquez means nothing, Martinez beating Chavez Jr means nothing, Wlad beating Haye is a meaningful fight and Wlad should be moved up from 5 to top 3 if he wins. I think if Haye beats Wlad, he should b ranked in the top 5.
I think so. Because they would have went through the best guys who faught the best guys.
The 2 finalist are part of the original 6. So, they would have faught 2-3 of the best SMWs, who in turn faught at least 1 of the best SMWs.
So whoever wins the S6 would in turn be at least #2 on the p4p list.
As much as I think Bute doesn't deserve to be the best SMW. The winner will most likely fight him and if they win they basically put on a "Fab 4 era" performance.
Which will definitely cement them as the p4p #1.
Still don't get the hype on p4p rankings. But anyways, I don't think Ward beating Froch or vice versa makes the winner the best fighter in the sport. They deserve a ton of respect though.
Froch/Ward winner beat beats Dirrell then Bute, then we can discuss top 5 P4P.
You're acting like the top 5 is all fighters with fighters with far better resumes than the Super Six winner would have.
I say true , the winner would have cleared out probably the deepest most talented division in the sport. The winner would have probably a better resume than Martinez and fought more livelier fighters than either Pacquiao or Mayweather have fought.
False. Froch lost recently and Ward hasn't faced anywhere near good enough competition in his career. Either could be argued in the top 5 I'd say.