Chavez vs. The Following

Yea he has a hard head but I think the fact he didn't start boxing until he was 15 and never had 1 amateur fight hurt his development. I actually think he has good ability, he is just still very raw. I also think Roach is showing him a technique that isn't effective for Jr. He wants to turn him into this outside boxer and that isn't his strengths. He should become a pressure fighter, that comes in exceptional shape and wears fighters down, that's about all he could ever hope to be. i agree. it's good to develop an outside game but he is what he is. he gave zbik rounds by being on the outside. he should be on the inside all the time. he should develop his outside game just for the purpose of using it to get inside. Yeah but he doesn't finish off his opponent like his father do. And his battered marks are obvious unlike his father who rarely show the bruises except maybe the cut against Oscar I. if you compare him to his dad who is an ATG , he will never be much. he is what he is. he's big. he's strong. he has a chin. he has beautiful body work. he's good enough to beat a lot of solid fighters. just don't expect him to be his dad. few people are as good as his dad.

he has a chin , he has heart and he works the body like a madman. that's most fighters nightmare. if jr. can just get in great shape and conditioning , he'll give anyone a tough fight. Yeah but he doesn't finish off his opponent like his father do. And his battered marks are obvious unlike his father who rarely show the bruises except maybe the cut against Oscar I.

seems like he has the old man's chin too. Yea he has a hard head but I think the fact he didn't start boxing until he was 15 and never had 1 amateur fight hurt his development. I actually think he has good ability, he is just still very raw. I also think Roach is showing him a technique that isn't effective for Jr. He wants to turn him into this outside boxer and that isn't his strengths. He should become a pressure fighter, that comes in exceptional shape and wears fighters down, that's about all he could ever hope to be.

His father didn't have an "edge" his father was a master boxer, counter puncher, pressure fighter, you name it...he could do it all. Most people that don't really watch or understand boxing think that Sr was nothing but a brawler, simply the biggest BS in boxing history probably. Senior was a legend with all the skills, his son.....well let's just say he's got heart. seems like he has the old man's chin too.

none of the above

Chavez Jr just doesnt have the extra edge like his ATG father. That being said I've havent get to see Omar. Hope hes better then his brother. :boxing: His father didn't have an "edge" his father was a master boxer, counter puncher, pressure fighter, you name it...he could do it all. Most people that don't really watch or understand boxing think that Sr was nothing but a brawler, simply the biggest BS in boxing history probably. Senior was a legend with all the skills, his son.....well let's just say he's got heart.

Chavez Jr just doesnt have the extra edge like his ATG father. That being said I've havent get to see Omar. Hope hes better then his brother. :boxing: he has a chin , he has heart and he works the body like a madman. that's most fighters nightmare. if jr. can just get in great shape and conditioning , he'll give anyone a tough fight.

You should've added an "All of the above" option.

And also things like this... You probably hate JR because he is now the Middleweight champion. Which means as long as JR is fighting, Sergio will never be champion again. Not because they will never fight but because he would lose in brutal fashion to JR. JCC is the future. His reign of terror and absolute dominance has officially begun.

Chavez Jr just doesnt have the extra edge like his ATG father. That being said I've havent get to see Omar. Hope hes better then his brother. :boxing:

Seriously I dont need to vote cos I think he will not beat any of the fighters convincingly. I just chose Cotto, Pirog, Angulo and Zbik II. Fighters whom I think he can have abit of a chance of beating but 50/50. Others all beat him convincingly including Strum although Strum only fight in europe now.

Sebastian Zbik Billy Lyell John Duddy Troy Rowland Jason LeHoullier Luciano Cuello Matt Vanda Matt Vanda Giuseppe Loriga José Celaya Ray Sánchez Louis Brown Grover Wiley Anthony Shuler Raúl Muñoz Christian Solano Shad Howard Jermaine White Aaron Drake Tyler Ziolkowski Carlos Molina Carlos Molina Jeremy Stiers Corey Alarcon Jonathan Nelson Rubén Galván Adam Wynant Travis Hartman Ryan Maraldo Leroy Newton Jose Cruz Eliseo Urias Sheldon Mosley Mike Walker Miguel Galindo Jason Smith Luis Huerta Antonio Aguilar Arturo Ocampo Guadalupe Arce Oisin Fagan Jose Burgos Gerardo Penaflor Eugene Johnson Jonathan Hernandez

43 have tried and 43 have failed. And also things like this...

I just don't understand how people can say things like this... 43 have tried and 43 have failed.

Not only does he beat all those fighters convincingly; he probably could beat them all in the same night. He hasn't been champion for 3 hours and already people want to see him back in action. He could be the fighting est lineal champ in history. I just don't understand how people can say things like this...

Not only does he beat all those fighters convincingly; he probably could beat them all in the same night. He hasn't been champion for 3 hours and already people want to see him back in action. He could be the fighting est lineal champ in history.

JR beats everyone from 147-168. trololololololo

Like I said, skill for skill....like a fantasy fight or whatever. Chavez swings wide..powerful, yes but leaves an opening for the opponent. chavez does swing wild. and yes cotto is much , much more skilled. but boy hard to pick cotto for me after seeing chavez bully and wear down a big middleweight like zbik. cotto is kinda short for welterweight and definitely small for junior welterweight. chavez is a big , strong boy.

IMO I'm not sure he can beat any of these guys

He wins all those fights. Martinez - TKO 11 Sturm - KO 8 Zbik II (Neutral Site) - TKO 4 Alvarez - KO 5 Pirog - TKO 7 Cotto - KO 5 Angulo - TKO 12 Kirkland - KO 1 Williams - KO 3 Margarito - TKO 9 :bottle: I'm Mexican too and he doesn't do ANY of that... Martinez KO's him Cotto would outbox or stop him Angulo might lose a decision Margarito would stop him Williams with out a doubt stops JR. and really he loses in the first round? OH I guess because you pick Chavez over Martinez he automatically out does his wins as well thus KO'ing Williams in the first round LOL even Alvarez could beat him IMO wait was I just trolled? LOL