Lets be real, we all know JMM is chinny at any weight class, why not keep his speed from 140lbs. to be able to keep up with Pacquaio at WW (who seems to be slowing down quite a bit as of late).
Let Pacquiao be the bigger man this time.
When a fighter comes in lower than the weight limit, that is a disadvantage to the fighter. Yet when Pacquiao does it, you call it an advantage. Are you really that mental?
Marquez should definitely come in light, to maintain his speed. Both guys will be close to the same weight on fight night anyway.
The only difference is that Pacquiao has been able to use the weight gain to his advantage without having any repercussions.
he needs those extra pounds so that he can absorb pac's ped-powered shots.
i still see jmm get the beatup of his life and still stand up. his head likes to bounce up in the canvas
Hopkins and Johnson have proven that sometimes age shouldn't be a factor. What should be important dynamics is the type of fights both fighters have been in along with their styles.
He can come in at 136 and no one would care. It's up to him. The weight isn't for jmm, he can weigh whatever he wants. The "weight demands" are for pacquiao. If pacquiao isn't forced to cut weight, and drain down he's gonna beat the living crap out of marquez.
That's why I have a problem with this fight. If u need one guy to cut weight just to make the fight competitive, maybe there shouldn't be a fight to begin with. If jmm comes in at 136, rehydrates to 145, and pac comes in at 144 and rehydrates to 148, they will both be 100%, and jmm will take a beating. That's the simple truth to it. Jmm has gotten older, pac has gotten better and stronger but older too.
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He can come in at 138 if he wants, don't think it'll make a difference truthfully. I don't see JMM winning this fight now.
Yeah I agree but im gonna say whatever weight Marquez gonna come in, he still gonna get KTFO.
marquez 2x, morrales, barrera twice, cotto, hatton>>>>>>>>anybody's resume not named bernard hopkins.
Barerra and Cotto are his best wins to date, albeit Cotto was already damaged goods.
Everyone knows JMM schooled Pacquiao, lettuce be cereal. A shot Morales beat Pacquiao once and instead of fighting Raheem, he goes after shot Morales and drains em, twice. Come on son.
Pacquiao's been able to make WW because he's been eating leftovers.
Pacquiao's streak of "greatness" is only exaggerated due to the quality of opponents he's been facing.
marquez 2x, morrales, barrera twice, cotto, hatton>>>>>>>>anybody's resume not named bernard hopkins.
Unless it's stipulated on the contract, there's no such thing. Remember Pacquiao's weight for a 154lb belt was 144.
Well think about it. It's Freddy Roach and Pacquiao. They would tro ry to make JMM as big as possible to make him less effective. Im not positive but if I had to guess Pacman probably did have something inthe contract to that extent. Again- Not positive- that's just my take on it.
Ok fine then. If that's the case why the hollow weight demand? At 144 Jmm can weigh in at whatever he wants, he's free to cut weight or not cut weight. Pac has the same advantage. Having said that why did jmm and his team ***** and moan about the fight not happening at a lower weight? What is the purpose of having the fight at a lower weight unless ur trying to drain ur opponent?
Jmm couldn't beat pac back when he was in his prime, and at his prime weight. He couldn't get the victory then, he's not getting it now. All this nonsense about pacs run being against low quality opponents is a lot of hot air. Name one guy at 147 not named floyd you would have rather seen pac fight instead of the "bums" he beat down....Berto? I mean who else was out there? The only fight pac had that should have never happened was mosley, the rest of them were all top guys at 147. Who was he supposed to fight that he didn't fight?
I agree. I would like to see Pacman start taking on the fresh new up and comers after JMM. Mayweather has pretty much fought the same guys as Pacman and everybody talks about how great he is. Mayweather has fought a way less caliber of opponents. And the same guys they did fight Pacman blew right thru them. Give Pacman his DUES. Everybody gave Mayweather his dues when he looked ALOT less spectacular than Pacman when fighting the same guys.
Marquez can weigh a minimum of 141 and a max of 144. Otherwise it would not be a welterweight fight. 136 thru 140 would be considered junior welterweight. I think JMM will be weighing at 141 or 142 in order to keep his speed and stay light on his feet.
Unless it's stipulated on the contract, there's no such thing. Remember Pacquiao's weight for a 154lb belt was 144.
Pacquiao's streak of "greatness" is only exaggerated due to the quality of opponents he's been facing.
Ok fine then. If that's the case why the hollow weight demand? At 144 Jmm can weigh in at whatever he wants, he's free to cut weight or not cut weight. Pac has the same advantage. Having said that why did jmm and his team ***** and moan about the fight not happening at a lower weight? What is the purpose of having the fight at a lower weight unless ur trying to drain ur opponent?
Jmm couldn't beat pac back when he was in his prime, and at his prime weight. He couldn't get the victory then, he's not getting it now. All this nonsense about pacs run being against low quality opponents is a lot of hot air. Name one guy at 147 not named floyd you would have rather seen pac fight instead of the "bums" he beat down....Berto? I mean who else was out there? The only fight pac had that should have never happened was mosley, the rest of them were all top guys at 147. Who was he supposed to fight that he didn't fight?
Marquez can weigh a minimum of 141 and a max of 144. Otherwise it would not be a welterweight fight. 136 thru 140 would be considered junior welterweight. I think JMM will be weighing at 141 or 142 in order to keep his speed and stay light on his feet.
I think ill let do what he wants to do. Everyone here seems to have the perfect plan on how to beat Pac. Everyone seems to know what the perfect weight should be for JMM. I think hes smart enough to do whats right for himself and his body. His only welterweight showing was against mayweather and obviously he had to be the agressive one in the ring which doesnt play into his skills. Ill leave the whole prep for the PROFESSIONALS. Do I beleive he can win? Sure. Does he have teh tools. Yes. Will he win? no. Im a big fan but we cant ignore the obvious. I would prefer he clean out the young cats in 140. That would be more impressive than PACs resume as of the last couple years.
He can come in at 136 and no one would care. It's up to him. The weight isn't for jmm, he can weigh whatever he wants. The "weight demands" are for pacquiao. If pacquiao isn't forced to cut weight, and drain down he's gonna beat the living crap out of marquez.
That's why I have a problem with this fight. If u need one guy to cut weight just to make the fight competitive, maybe there shouldn't be a fight to begin with. If jmm comes in at 136, rehydrates to 145, and pac comes in at 144 and rehydrates to 148, they will both be 100%, and jmm will take a beating. That's the simple truth to it. Jmm has gotten older, pac has gotten better and stronger.
Pacquiao's streak of "greatness" is only exaggerated due to the quality of opponents he's been facing.
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