Is Sebastian Zbik just another Euro bum?

another euro bum? how many more did you have in mind? xD

It irks me when people cry and moan about others opinions on an open forum in their post instead of staying on topic (oh the irony). Anyways, they're two bums who happen to be fighting each other. Enough said.

Ironic that this is a title bout and neither fighter is in the Ring's top ten in the middleweight division.

He must be, if he's fighting Chavez Jr.

Did you really just say Zbik is better than a multi division champion, who lost to arguably the best fighter in the world, Paul Williams? Even for you, that's a stretch. Jacobs is also a kid, sorry he didn't wait till he's 30 to step up like most Eastern Europeans and Kirkland was in prison for 2 years. Zbik is not even in the same planet as those guys, especially Williams. Once again this proves that boxers should never step up and fight anyone. You get praised for being undefeated and fighting nobodies but if you fight world class opponents and lose, you're nothing. When did Paul williams become a multi division champion? Just wondering....?

Zbik looks like a mid-level fighter. A step above John Duddy. I have a 50-50 fight. I think Jr has become an OK contender himself. Not a bum. He proved that when he beat Duddy easily.

tune in saturday and find out for yourself That's the point, I want people to call their shot NOW not after the fight on Saturday. Either they will be impressed if Jr. wins or they won't and they should say so ahead of time not after the fact.

tune in saturday and find out for yourself

Cant call a boxer that goes 30-0 a bum, but he is average at best. Little power as well. Zbik becoming champ was part of the master plan to hand Chavez a WBC belt.

Hmm...so which is it? Is Zbik zhit or is he quite skilled? Zbik iz Zhit was a little pun. He's decent. Nothing more. No pop. Ottke would pwn him. Easy.

Zbik iz zhit. I suppose a win over Zbik, who's quite skilled, will show if he's ready for some bigger fish. Hmm...so which is it? Is Zbik zhit or is he quite skilled?

Survey Says! 1. Yes

Well, Chavez Jr.'s biggest win was against John Duddy of Ireland. If you keep up with European boxers then maybe you are familiar with him. That is about the level Jr. is at, perhaps he will have improved some with the training camp for this fight. I know John 'Bloody' Duddy well. Looks like Jr. still has ways to go then. I suppose a win over Zbik, who's quite skilled, will show if he's ready for some bigger fish.

Well, Chavez Jr.'s biggest win was against John Duddy of Ireland. If you keep up with European boxers then maybe you are familiar with him. That is about the level Jr. is at, perhaps he will have improved some with the training camp for this fight.

You don't know Chavez Jr.??? How is that possible, he's the son of boxing legend Julio Cesar Chavez. And is trained by the great Freddie Roach at the famous Wild Card Gym. Aren't you a boxing fan? I haven't seen him fight. Obviously I'm very well aware of his dad, but is he Jr.'s only claim to fame?

I dont know Chavez Jr. Will Zbik deserve accolades if he wins? You don't know Chavez Jr.??? How is that possible, he's the son of boxing legend Julio Cesar Chavez. And is trained by the great Freddie Roach at the famous Wild Card Gym. Aren't you a boxing fan?

He's decent. Chavez jr has to outclass him for me to give props. Not on the actual beating but on his improvement and step up in competition. I'm not too high on JCC jr, I want him to win and I'll root for him but he hasn't done anything special for me to think he the next big thing.

Yeah but thats what u say about everyone Junior fights. he could be fighting Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime and you would most likely call him a bum too just to ensure he gets no credit in your mind before he's even fought the guy. :wtf: I don't think I have ever made a comment on a Chavez jr. thread buddy. You must have me mistaken for someone else.

I don't know about Zbik, I've never seen him fight. I can tell you though that Chavez Jr is not a good fighter, so unless that Zbik is complete crap, this could be an even match.

Zbik iz zhit. How good is Jr.? Will Zbik get any credit for winning? Yeah but thats what u say about everyone Junior fights. he could be fighting Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime and you would most likely call him a bum too just to ensure he gets no credit in your mind before he's even fought the guy.