Advanced testing helps the credibility of the sport

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Yeah, so like I was saying, Packie...the testing we have today began because fighters chose to pay out of pocket. Only the well-paid ones could do so. Even then, most commissions refused to pay for any fight until six years after fighters had already started doing it (sound familiar?). When they did start, it was only for championship fights. Eventually it trickled down. This is how change occurs. But if we applied the logic of most of the Packies on here back to the year 2000, there would be no testing at all because it has to be for everyone right away and affordable just as fast or else what's the point. Luckily, not everyone is that narrow minded...

LOL!! Look at this fronter...he said I was wrong then posts the same thing I posted........LOL!!!! How is this ^ different from this: OMG IMDAZED! You are a complete idiot for a knowledgeable boxing fan. No wonder I'm always having my way with you. To think that I just watched boxing last 2008 when Oscar met Pac. :owned: Another Ownage: :D **looks at avi** :lol1: :lol1:

who does it? who pays for it? i think that's a sensible question? don't you? Yeah, so like I was saying, Packie...the testing we have today began because fighters chose to pay out of pocket. Only the well-paid ones could do so. Even then, most commissions refused to pay for any fight until six years after fighters had already started doing it (sound familiar?). When they did start, it was only for championship fights. Eventually it trickled down. This is how change occurs. But if we applied the logic of most of the Packies on here back to the year 2000, there would be no testing at all because it has to be for everyone right away and affordable just as fast or else what's the point. Luckily, not everyone is that narrow minded.

that's a bogus assumption. not everyone who's a fan of the sport has pactard mentality, we don't worship boxers like deities. if somebody outright refused a blood test and made a grip of excuses then, flip flopped with those excuses for 3 years, i'd jump on that guy with the same questions too. yeah, i won't give floyd high marks on subtlety and swag. I simply said I doubt he would have the same stance on the matter. Also, I was not speaking of all fans, or to all fans...I did bold YOU in that post. I was speaking to him. Thanks for replying, and showing that all fans think different. Although this is an open forum, that post was just for him.

I think its a very reasonable question! The Test cost in excess of 25,000$ whos gonna foot the bill for that??? And also should a company that charges that much money for a test be trusted when they say that their test is the only real definative test? Hmmmm sounds like a way to market something thats completely overpriced. the thing is...... we don't even have a national governing body let along a world governing body. even if we had money for it , who's gonna do it? even the "limited , ineffective" testing we do now is a mess. sometimes the state commissions do it , sometimes it's the boxing organization , sometimes no one does it. it's not as simple as people think.

who does it? who pays for it? i think that's a sensible question? don't you? I think its a very reasonable question! The Test cost in excess of 25,000$ whos gonna foot the bill for that??? And also should a company that charges that much money for a test be trusted when they say that their test is the only real definative test? Hmmmm sounds like a way to market something thats completely overpriced.

Don't be such a nutlicker. How do you think the testing used today got started? who does it? who pays for it? i think that's a sensible question? don't you?

all of the real issues brought up in this thread are being avoided like a pac-floyd fight, makes sense considering

So basically I was right, no one cares about 'better testing' or protecting boxers' rights in general. It's all just a Pactard/Flomo pissing contest :lol1: Oh well, carry on :dance: :nonono: exactly....good post, i love how they all call each other the exact same names. they are all the same moron:booty:

I find this whole 'OST' circus comical. All it's done is expose people's bias and hypocrisy. Most clowns championing 'better testing' could care less if someone like Hopkins or Ortiz is guzzling super soldier serum before their fights. All they care about is that Manny Pacquiao 'take the test' for Floyd. The only fighter who has chimed in on the issue who seems to genuinely care about cleaning up the whole sport and not just his fights (only for certain fighters) is Andre Ward. He also called for a fighters' union/athletes' association so that fighters could be protected by law. He has a great head on his shoulders and is probably smart enough to realize that if you want REAL change, gossiping on twitter like a 12 year old girl or complaining only after you get your ass kicked or someone comes along who frightens you isn't the way to get it done. If fighters were really as serious as Ward seems to be, they would follow his lead. Form a union, and collectively bargain with the major commissions to institute whatever testing protocols they deemed fitting. Hell, they could even take their cause to Congress and try to force legislation that would not only create one homogeneous national commission but would also have them institute standardized across the boards testing. But going on vacation, printing t-shirts, and twittering seems to be just as effective :lol1: So basically I was right, no one cares about 'better testing' or protecting boxers' rights in general. It's all just a Pactard/Flomo pissing contest :lol1: Oh well, carry on :dance: :nonono:

either or....credible or not azz next time think before you make stupid thread.

the average boxer makes 10k to 30k only bigger names make closer to even 70k and up. under card on a major card might make 50-100k so yes a 20k blood test is a hugely cost prohibitive venture

well, jack ass, someone said not all fighters can afford to have testing, use your eyes and not just your "dick sucka" aka your mouth, *****. You proposed credibility right? it's because others can't afford the fee you want to run around? retard filipino.... knowing fighters are able to perform on a high level clean only helps the sport.

well, jack ass, someone said not all fighters can afford to have testing, use your eyes and not just your "dick sucka" aka your mouth, *****. You proposed credibility right? it's because others can't afford the fee you want to run around? retard filipino....

The testing that's in place today were initially used in championship fights only. Eventually, as the cost decreased, it transferred over. That's usually how testing begins. In other words, find another excuse Pac-diots.

testing for only championship fights, 20,000 is nothing to a fighter on the championship or contender level. could use that money they pay sanction bodies with for belts. that's stupid! you are looking for credibility and now only for championship fight? stupid thread----credibility is credibility...right or wrong azz o well, jack ass, someone said not all fighters can afford to have testing, use your eyes and not just your "dick sucka" aka your mouth, *****.

testing for only championship fights, 20,000 is nothing to a fighter on the championship or contender level. could use that money they pay sanction bodies with for belts. that's stupid! you are looking for credibility and now only for championship fight? stupid thread----credibility is credibility...right or wrong azz o

why has this thread turned into a manny vs floyd thread. smh:nonono: