how would you rank these fighter??lil list i made

My list is actually missing someone I think. But anyway on Johnson. Hes rated greater than where I had him actually. I can put him there soley on the fight with Jim Jefferies. Or on the fact that the was the first African American Heavyweight Champ. And not to mention how much hatred he dealt with and overcame. The Great White hope he went on, etc. And I biased towards heavyweights. Which would explain Ali and Louis. 1 and 2. I'm a fan of Jack Johnson as much as anyone. But I really can't see how he can be ranked that highly. Resume wise I have him in my Top 5 Heavyweights but his Title reign is quite average. Surely we must consider that Jeffries was coming off a 6 year lay off and weighing in all time high against Johnson? I mean, It's a good win. But I can't see how a that win perpels him to a ranking higher than the like of Pernell Whitaker. In the case of the hatred point then surely you should have Langford higher than you do, No? I mean I disagree with your high rankings of Ali and Louis quite whole heartedly but can understand it. Johnson? I can't.

Good list overall but I'm curious to know on what basis you have Jack Johnson ranked ahead of Pernell Whitaker. That I really struggle to see a case for. My list is actually missing someone I think. But anyway on Johnson. Hes rated greater than where I had him actually. I can put him there soley on the fight with Jim Jefferies. Or on the fact that the was the first African American Heavyweight Champ. And not to mention how much hatred he dealt with and overcame. The Great White hope he went on, etc. And I biased towards heavyweights. Which would explain Ali and Louis. 1 and 2.

I don't know if you saw my list but Ali was just about Top 15 in mine. Obviously I'm only using the names Larry allocated so others would be there also. Mclarnin, Canzoneri etc etc etc So Ali will most like be even lower on my list. I have him minimum Top 20 though and definitely a case for Top 15 but not Top 10 IMO. Which again shows how insanely vast the history of this sport is. Something new fans need to quickly understand. That Muhammad Ali, can be considered that low on an ATG list. He CAN be considered low but I wont dissagree with a list that has him Top 3.

1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Robinson 4. Armstrong 5. B. Leonard 6. Greb 7. Pep 8. Fitzsimmons 9. Walker 10. Gans 11. Moore 12. Duran 13. Langford 14. Charles 15. Wilde 16. Ross 17. Tunney 18. Saddler 19. R. Leonard 20. Hagler 21. Monzon 22. Johnson 23. Arguello 24. Pernell 25. Holyfield 26. Walker 27. Chavez 28. Lewis 29. RJJr. Good list overall but I'm curious to know on what basis you have Jack Johnson ranked ahead of Pernell Whitaker. That I really struggle to see a case for.

I think Ali is in the lower top 10. SRR, Greb and Langford all 3 have a case to being the GOAT. I don't think nobody else has a case. Followed by Armstrong. Than I would put B. Leonard, Pep, and Ross also are greater than Ali. I think Ali is the greatest HW though followed by Louis of course. I don't know if you saw my list but Ali was just about Top 15 in mine. Obviously I'm only using the names Larry allocated so others would be there also. Mclarnin, Canzoneri etc etc etc So Ali will most likely be even lower on my list but obviuously if I were to devise one I would put alot more thought into it. I have him minimum Top 20 though and definitely a case for Top 15 but not Top 10 IMO. Which again shows how insanely vast the history of this sport is. Something new fans need to quickly understand. That Muhammad Ali, can be considered that low on an ATG list.

Yeah I agree Ruben. Ali was GREATNESS. In every sense of the word.

I think Ali is in the lower top 10. SRR, Greb and Langford all 3 have a case to being the GOAT. I don't think nobody else has a case. Followed by Armstrong. Than I would put B. Leonard, Pep, and Ross also are greater than Ali. I think Ali is the greatest HW though followed by Louis of course. I rate Ali on the same level as the top 3 boxing gods, his resume ticks all the boxes for me, its pure quality, JMO though. I put Charles above the bolded.

I think Ali is in the lower top 10. SRR, Greb and Langford all 3 have a case to being the GOAT. I don't think nobody else has a case. Followed by Armstrong. Than I would put B. Leonard, Pep, and Ross also are greater than Ali. I think Ali is the greatest HW though followed by Louis of course.

Ali is the GOAT imo. And no its not because of the media. naw man i gotta go with robinson..but ali is top 5 imo

It's really funny when people who weren't even born yet or did not see these guys fight make their own **** up. And yes I wasn't born yet when these guys fought so I dont got a clue. :boxing: do your research man..study up on the sport..dont understand how thats hard..plus why you mad??

It's really funny when people who weren't even born yet or did not see these guys fight make their own **** up. And yes I wasn't born yet when these guys fought so I dont got a clue. :boxing:

Ali is the GOAT imo. And no its not because of the media.

. 1Sugar Ray Robinson . Henry Armstrong2 . Muhammad Ali3 . Sam Langford4 . Harry Greb5 . Joe Louis6 . Ezzard Ch7arles . Willie Pep8 9Roberto Duran A10rchie Moore . Be11nny Leonard . Ray 12Leonard . Pernell13 Whitaker . Bob Fitzs14immons Joe Gans15 Carlos Mon16zon Barney Ross17 Jack Johnson18 . Marvin Hagler19 Jimmy Wilde20 Mickey Walker21 Sandy Saddler22 . Julio Cesar Cha23vez Alexis Arguello24 . Rocky Marciano25 . Gene Tunney26 Roy Jones Jr27 Lennox Lewis28 Evander Holyfie29ld 1. Ali 2. Louis 3. Robinson 4. Armstrong 5. B. Leonard 6. Greb 7. Pep 8. Fitzsimmons 9. Walker 10. Gans 11. Moore 12. Duran 13. Langford 14. Charles 15. Wilde 16. Ross 17. Tunney 18. Saddler 19. R. Leonard 20. Hagler 21. Monzon 22. Johnson 23. Arguello 24. Pernell 25. Holyfield 26. Walker 27. Chavez 28. Lewis 29. RJJr.

. Sugar Ray Robinson . Henry Armstrong . Muhammad Ali . Sam Langford . Harry Greb . Joe Louis . Ezzard Charles . Willie Pep Roberto Duran Archie Moore . Benny Leonard . Ray Leonard . Pernell Whitaker . Bob Fitzsimmons Joe Gans Carlos Monzon Barney Ross Jack Johnson . Marvin Hagler Jimmy Wilde Mickey Walker Sandy Saddler . Julio Cesar Chavez Alexis Arguello . Rocky Marciano . Gene Tunney Roy Jones Jr Lennox Lewis Evander Holyfield 1. Ali 2. Louis 3. SRR 4. Armstrong 5. Benny 6. Greb 7. Pep 6. Fitzsimmons 8. Walker 9. Gans 10. Moore 11. Duran 11. Langford 12. Charles 13. Wilde 14. Ross 15. Tunney 16. Saddler 17. SRL 18. Hagler 19. Monzon 20. Johnson 21. Alexis 22. Pernell 23. Holyfield 24. Walker 25. Hagler 26. Lewis 27. Chavez 28. Jones Jr. 29. Marciano

:bottle::bottle: LOL I'm actually a fan myself, but Hagler > Monzon. Sigh........ :lol1: :lol1:

Ooooooooooo ok bringing Monzon into this? That's low, Rube. That is LOW. :lol1: :lol1: :bottle::bottle: LOL I'm actually a fan myself, but Hagler > Monzon.

Here, here Monzon fan. I've seen it all, I know everything about Frazier but I still love the guy. Ooooooooooo ok bringing Monzon into this? That's low, Rube. That is LOW. :lol1: :lol1:

:lol1: :lol1: I think if you were a tad older Ruben you wouldn't be so fond of Mr. Muhammad. Here, here Monzon fan. I've seen it all, I know everything about Frazier but I still love the guy.

Red K given....LOL. :lol1: :lol1: I think if you were a tad older Ruben you wouldn't be so fond of Mr. Muhammad.

That's a pretty vast list of fighters you have there, Larry. 1.Robinson 2.Langford 3.Greb 4.Armstrong 5.Pep 6.B.Leonard 7.Fitzsimmons 8.Charles 9.Walker 10.Duran 11.Gans 12.Moore 13.Louis 14.Ali 15.Tunney 16.R.Leonard 17.Jones 18.Wilde 19.Ross 20.Arguello 21.Monzon 22.Hagler 23.Holyfield 24.Saddler 25.Chavez 26.Johnson 27.Marciano 28.Lewis I am missing one. Who am I missing? That was insanely difficult and would change at the tip of a hat. Red K given....LOL Good list, but putting jones that high...really? above Hagler, Monzon and Holyfield As it stands yes, but I won't try to argue too hard, I only put it together within about 10 minutes and I haven't really had time to think about it thoroughly.