Unlikely Hall Of Famers And What They Need To Do Still?

jmm aint borderline hes a ledged.. borderline cotto margo tarver glenn johnson judah arce darcynian Literally, no chance what so ever. The others most likely won't either. Some might, maybe.

You're reaching with those. Well I'm not saying those are great names but where solid wins in Cotto's career. Bailey and Torres where huge punchers and very dangerous at the time he fought them.

JMM is a sure HOF Cotto still needs to do more Margarito won't make it Clottey won't make it Gatti might Pavlik needs to do more

On David Haye, Preface: I did mean compared to what fighters usually fight. Very Kostya Tszyu like beginning to his career. 6th fight - KO'd Lolenga Mock in four rounds. Mock has never been KO'd by anybody else but fought Lucian Bute, Charles Brewer, and Mario Viet. k. KO'd super middleweight at cruiserweight :headbang:

jmm aint borderline hes a ledged.. borderline cotto margo tarver glenn johnson judah arce darcynian

Naw Adamek is no where close to the hall of fame. He could sto How the fuck is JMM BOARDERLINE hall of fame?? Man is certified HOF!!

If Haye somehow manages to beat the Kiltschkos, he has to be there. I don't think he'll do it but it'd be a fantastic achievement for someone who's naturally about 215lbs at most.

if haye beats wlad , why not ? lineal cruiserweight champion + lineal heavyweight champion should be enough to get you in the hall of fame

McGuigan was able to bring a bitterly divided Ireland together as they cheered him on as he fought, if only for one night. That's pretty historic. He did beat a legend, an old legend but a legend all the same. Eusebio Pedroza held the title for years and years, McGuigan was able to take that title from him. Granted he did lose to Stevie Cruz but McGuigan is still loved and cherished in his country. Skill wise McGuigan falls short but crossing over and having that kind of drawing power that he had to unite two fueding sides is amazing. I think that he deserves it.........Rockin':boxing: Then again the much much more deserving Eddie Booker isn't in the HOF.

I can see some saying Cotto maybe shouldn't get in. I vote yes but was on fence at first. His only losses are to an all time great and Hall of famer Pacquiao and a cheating scumbag that probably was using loaded gloves. So only 1 legit loss and no shame in it. Miguel Angel Cotto *35-2 28 Ko's *15-2 in world title fights *World titles held: WBA Jr middleweight WBO welterweight WBA welterweight WBO Jr welterweight NOTABLE WINS: Lovemore N'dou Randall Bailey Ricardo Torres Paul Malignaggi Carlos Quintana Zab Judah Shane Mosley Yuri Foreman Joshua Clottey NOTABLE LOSSES: Antonio Margarito Manny Pacquiao You're reaching with those.

On David Haye, Preface: I did mean compared to what fighters usually fight. Very Kostya Tszyu like beginning to his career. 6th fight - KO'd Lolenga Mock in four rounds. Mock has never been KO'd by anybody else but fought Lucian Bute, Charles Brewer, and Mario Viet. 9th fight - KO'd former world champion Arthur Williams in three rounds. 10th fight - KO'd by Carl Thompson, but gave as good as he got and gassed early. Also knocked out Fragomeni who went on to challenge for a belt and I believe win it. Former title challenger Glen Kelly is there early on as well. I think it's impressive when a fighter is in with tough gatekeepers, former title challengers, and former champions that early on and knocking them out. Gaye was a World Amateur silver medalist. Compare his early career resume to that of Olympians and such. Andre Ward, a gold medalist, took a long time to face a Lolenga Mock or Arthur Williams. Not HOF persay but it adds to what he did later, I think.

Cotto is a 3 division champion, there's others whom have done less that are in there so don't sleep on him, besides he still has a long career to add to his resume. JMM is a sure shot

Cotto and Margarito at one point I thought was on the Road to being HOF fighters but now, Margarito probably has NO CHANCE and Cotto...I Don't Know, he may still have a chance, getting revenge against Margarito (if he can fight again) would help JMM is already a LOCK! Glen Johnson is well respected and people know he been robbed of fights in his career many of times, so he may have a chance, defeating Froch would help and somehow winning the Super 6 would REALLY HELP!

really? like who? Well, he does have like 3 fights at HW, thats good enough for the brits to name him ATG.

Naw Adamek is no where close to the hall of fame. He could sto lol... marquez is a first ballot HOFer. cotto's going in early as well borderline types / stay on the ballot forever types arce darchinyan adamek johnson montiel etc if you want actual boxing knowledge ask questions like this in the history section most of the folk in NSB couldn't pick out a hall of famer out of the line up if his name wasn't manny, floyd, oscar, or bernard

I can see some saying Cotto maybe shouldn't get in. I vote yes but was on fence at first. His only losses are to an all time great and Hall of famer Pacquiao and a cheating scumbag that probably was using loaded gloves. So only 1 legit loss and no shame in it. Miguel Angel Cotto *35-2 28 Ko's *15-2 in world title fights *World titles held: WBA Jr middleweight WBO welterweight WBA welterweight WBO Jr welterweight NOTABLE WINS: Lovemore N'dou Randall Bailey Ricardo Torres Paul Malignaggi Carlos Quintana Zab Judah Shane Mosley Yuri Foreman Joshua Clottey NOTABLE LOSSES: Antonio Margarito Manny Pacquiao Edit: Belts and Titles: former WBO Junior Welterweight champion Former WBA and WBO Welterweight champion Current WBA Junior Middleweight champion Lovemore N'dou - former IBF Junior Welterweight champion Randall Bailley - former WBO Junior Welterweight champion Ricardo Torres - former WBO Junior Welterweight champion Paul Malignaggi - IBF Junior Welterweight and Undefeated when they faced each other. Carlos Quintana - former WBA Welterweight chmapion Zab Judah - former Junior Welterweight and Welterweight champion Shane Mosley - Hall of Famer Yuri Foreman - former WBA Junior Middleweight champion Joshua Clottey - former IBF Welterweight champion DeMarcus Corley - former WBO Junior Welterweight chmapion Ricardo Mayorga - former Unified Welterweight champion and former WBC Junior Middleweight champion Notable losses to: Antonio Margarito: former WBO, IBF, and WBA Welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao: most protected fighter of the decade and a one dimensional boxing midget. Yea, Miguel has a case to go to the Hall of Fame first round pick. Although, he needs a defining win against someone dangerous like Sergio Martinez or at least attempt to clear out the Junior Middleweight division. A win against Canelo Alvarez will surely be a good thing to have in his resume.

David Haye is in if he beats Wlad. People forget, he was knocking out world class fighters from the start of his career just about. But what if he only almost wins? really? like who?

I think every Hall of Famer needs a signature. An answer to why. Why Cotto? He has no signature and the only one available is beating Martinez or Mayweather. I doubt he does. There's a reason why people ask about Gatti and that's because he has a signature (and then some). You can put him in and then say why. Cotto has more belts, more talent, and better wins. Nothing "special" though. All those come from behind wins and great great fights from Gatti are "special" - with a belt or two as well. Calzaghe is pretty much sure fire because no matter the reality or fraudulence of it he has great stats. It's mostly "accepted" now to call him a legend. Glen Johnson, thought of him. Winning the Super Six would be undeniable. David Haye is in if he beats Wlad. People forget, he was knocking out world class fighters from the start of his career just about. But what if he only almost wins? I can see some saying Cotto maybe shouldn't get in. I vote yes but was on fence at first. His only losses are to an all time great and Hall of famer Pacquiao and a cheating scumbag that probably was using loaded gloves. So only 1 legit loss and no shame in it. Miguel Angel Cotto *35-2 28 Ko's *15-2 in world title fights *World titles held: WBA Jr middleweight WBO welterweight WBA welterweight WBO Jr welterweight NOTABLE WINS: Lovemore N'dou Randall Bailey Ricardo Torres Paul Malignaggi Carlos Quintana Zab Judah Shane Mosley Yuri Foreman Joshua Clottey NOTABLE LOSSES: Antonio Margarito Manny Pacquiao

I think every Hall of Famer needs a signature. An answer to why. Why Cotto? He has no signature and the only one available is beating Martinez or Mayweather. I doubt he does. There's a reason why people ask about Gatti and that's because he has a signature (and then some). You can put him in and then say why. Cotto has more belts, more talent, and better wins. Nothing "special" though. All those come from behind wins and great great fights from Gatti are "special" - with a belt or two as well. Calzaghe is pretty much sure fire because no matter the reality or fraudulence of it he has great stats. It's mostly "accepted" now to call him a legend. Glen Johnson, thought of him. Winning the Super Six would be undeniable. David Haye is in if he beats Wlad. People forget, he was knocking out world class fighters from the start of his career just about. But what if he only almost wins?

JMM is a sure fire HOF'er. Cotto is questionable. I would be quite suprised if he made it. I agree with this. Marquez is one title away from becoming the first Mexican to win titles in 4 weight classes. I doubt he does it against Pacquiao though. After the Pac fight, if he didn't get beaten in to retirement, he should go back down to 140 and try to win his 4th title there. I agree Cotto ain't a Hall Of Famer.