Pacquiao is NOT an 8-division titlist

these greedy bastards all wanted Pac's king midas touch and i won't be surprised if they're cooking up for his "9th" title down the line this will not happen...unless arum and wbc really want to lose all their credibility.

sorry kuya, it's not that im putting down his accomplishments here his name is already marked in stone, he doesn't need any more than what he already had and im not even blaming him, i blame those who's cashing in their pockets on his name while he's hot Pac's greatness won't be measured by these unnecessary title belts, all boxing fans should know that Roach didn't drop DLH to 147, DLH cherrypicked Pac from 135...read your boxing history Pac beat then 147 champ Cotto, defended it a couple of times at the limit (Clottey, Shane) which makes its more legit can't say the same against that 150 vacant belt, which Pac dropped afterwards and yes i won't be surprised if you gave credit Pac for beating Marg over Cotto, you're Puerto Rican My main issue is that Roach didn't have a problem with DLH coming in at 147, but then made a special case for Cotto for him to go down to 145, then ditches that and allows Clottey and Mosley to come in at 147. That's all I'm questioning. He then made Margarito come in at 150, which is closer to 147 than 154. And yeah, that belt that Pacquiao gained is pretty much meaningless...gained at a really bizarre catchweight, none of the fighters were ranked, Pacquiao didn't defend it...although you could say the same for the 140 belt. But at the end of the day, Pacquiao is still a much better fighter than 90% of the fighters out there, so all we're doing in this thread is grasping at straws.

and really you shouldn't count the ring 'belt' so hes a 5/6 division belt holder The ring belt is the most prestigious belt in boxing. No sanctioning BS can get you that title, you actually have to earn it.

miron lang is red kn over this thread...wtf??

5...but it's still very impressive and TS didn't mention Floyd? why are you bringing him up? plus some of the ATGs weren't multi-divisional champions Coz that Pac 8th is just a decoration! Pac has the Legit 7th crown! And Pac might go for a legit 9th with Sergio Martinez! You can say the Pac 8th was a fraud but still got the record 7th. Until someone match the Pac 7th, Only then that u have the right to debate Pac's 8th. For the mean time, find me Floyd so Pac can break his 4th Lineal title! Floyd head will be a good 5th Lineal title decoration!

Angulo who lost to Cintron in a decision? I did love the knockout blow to Julio, best sounding chin checker punch EVER! Angulo moves like Margarito. I see the same result. What does loosing to Cintron have to do with how competitive Angulo would be against Pacman though??

Then there's this guy.I don't know bout U,but Watching Mosley wolf Margarito on regular hbo was more satisfying than watching Pacman decision an already faded,shot cheating version of him.Being that Angulo has never been in a boring fight & packs real ko power & isn't shot,I would have gladly forked over 60 bucks for that. Angulo who lost to Cintron in a decision? I did love the knockout blow to Julio, best sounding chin checker punch EVER! Angulo moves like Margarito. I see the same result.

Pacquiao won 8 titles! Deal with it. Pacquiao made mince meat out of the monster in the LMW division and the current list ain't any more formidable. The top guy in light middle is Cotto, who Pacquiao already destroyed. Then you got Cintron, Ruznik, Perro, and Alvarez - guys who are not worth 60 bucks to see get their a$$e$ kicked around by Manny. Trust me, Pacquiao takes 8! Then there's this guy.I don't know bout U,but Watching Mosley wolf Margarito on regular hbo was more satisfying than watching Pacman decision an already faded,shot cheating version of him.Being that Angulo has never been in a boring fight & packs real ko power & isn't shot,I would have gladly forked over 60 bucks for that.

there, i said it that "8th" title is a sham and it's all because of boxing's dirty politician scumbags like Sulaiman and Arum as a Pac fan, i cannot give this credit to Pacquiao 4 lineals & 7 division belts were good enough for Pac as his ticket to Canastota Pacquiao won 8 titles! Deal with it. Pacquiao made mince meat out of the monster in the LMW division and the current list ain't any more formidable. The top guy in light middle is Cotto, who Pacquiao already destroyed. Then you got Cintron, Ruznik, Perro, and Alvarez - guys who are not worth 60 bucks to see get their a$$e$ kicked around by Manny. Trust me, Pacquiao takes 8!

It's going down in the history books,so.........................!But there is 1 thing to consider,all the other title fights were legit oponents.Meaning those fighters weren't caught trying to cheat,suspended for a year & couldn't get liscense in half a country. There is nothing horrid about Pacman getting the 154 title at 150,catchweight title fights have been a part of the sport before & after Pacman.It's the condition of the fight that makes it a sham.Bob Arum jumped through loops to make Pacman's oponent Margarito.It could have been K-9 he fought,or a rematch against Cotto,or Foreman,or Dzinziruk at his catchweight.But it was Margarito.A caught cheater,who couldn't get a liscense in half the country & some doctored up rankings.Tell me,which other title fight went to that extent??

until they stop claimin leonard as a 5 div champion, pac remains an 8 div champion.....:boxing:

Man, you just give the flomos another thing to discredit your national hero. You are not actually just being honest but a fool if you think it doesn't count. Did you know? There is a lot of catchweight title fights in history of boxing. If you think Pac catchweight title fight is a sham, you should also treated these fights the same how fraud and sham they are. Here are the few of them. -Whitaker vs Cesar Chavez for welter title @ 145lbs -Ray Leonard vs Danny Lalonde for the super middle & lightheavy title under 175 & 168. @ 165lbs -Ray Leonard vs Tommy Hearns 2 for the super middle title under 168lbs @ 163 -Oscar Hoya vs Bernard Hopkins for the middleweight championship @ 158lbs -Terry Norris vs Meldrick Taylor for the juniormiddle belt @ 150lbs Now you see? If my country only have like Pac. I won't give these haters and flomos plenty of gasoline to burn Pac alive for the sake of being just honest but ignorant to the facts. dude are you that shallow? it's funny but i don't see anywhere in my post that im berating Pac for whatever he's achieved like i said, Pac having 7 titles in 7 divisions together with his 4 lineals alone made him into an ATG his advisers/promoters were all pimping him up to make him the greatest since Ali which to me is absurd coz he already belongs in there and theres no need to make it like record-shattering or something and fukk those pea-brained flomos if they think im putting Pac down with this thread

Does making a guy come in at 145 count at all?

and really you shouldn't count the ring 'belt' so hes a 5/6 division belt holder

there, i said it that "8th" title is a sham and it's all because of boxing's dirty politician scumbags like Sulaiman and Arum as a Pac fan, i cannot give this credit to Pacquiao 4 lineals & 7 division belts were good enough for Pac as his ticket to Canastota Man, you just give the flomos another thing to discredit your national hero. You are not actually just being honest but a fool if you think it doesn't count. Did you know? There is a lot of catchweight title fights in history of boxing. If you think Pac catchweight title fight is a sham, you should also treated these fights the same how fraud and sham they are. Here are the few of them. -Whitaker vs Cesar Chavez for welter title @ 145lbs -Ray Leonard vs Danny Lalonde for the super middle & lightheavy title under 175 & 168. @ 165lbs -Ray Leonard vs Tommy Hearns 2 for the super middle title under 168lbs @ 163 -Oscar Hoya vs Bernard Hopkins for the middleweight championship @ 158lbs -Terry Norris vs Meldrick Taylor for the juniormiddle belt @ 150lbs Now you see? If my country only have like Pac. I won't give these haters and flomos plenty of gasoline to burn Pac alive for the sake of being just honest but ignorant to the facts.

Hatton at 140 for the IBO was a fluke for pacquiao Why? It's because the IBO or Hatton? Hatton was the lineal champ at 140, so think about it with your brain what is suppose to mean. How about If the IBO champ was Pacquiao and Floyd the challenger won the fight. It's a fluke win right?:smashfrea

Names, names, names, time, time, time...all that matters matters matters.

Fine. so lets scratch out ALL title fights fought on catchweight as well as all Vacant titles shall we? Many of these so called title holders did not won any titles at all in reality LOL. Yea because every fight has the same merit you don't go by case by case scenario :dunce: Great thinking there. Much better than "What's done is done, why complain" crap you were talking about earlier. F'ing pathetic.

sorry kuya, it's not that im putting down his accomplishments here LOL Joke lang yun :D nakikipagkulitan lang ako sa mga tao dito hehehe

Horrible thinking, man. Fine. so lets scratch out ALL title fights fought on catchweight as well as all Vacant titles shall we? Many of these so called title holders did not won any titles at all in reality LOL.