Stop whining that Martinez is calling Floyd and Pac out. Its not like hes asking them to fly up to Middleweight. My goodness you bunch of freakin girls.
Martinez vs. Floyd and Pac at 154 is FAIR GAME. They won titles in the JMW division against guys with the same type of frame as Martinez.
Floyd Mayweather beat Oscar De LeHoya at 154 pounds.
Oscar stands 5-10 1/2 and has a 73 inch reach and was nothing short of a Middleweight on fight night. Period. Floyd handled with him ease and took at least 9 rounds out of 12.
Martinez is 5-10 with a 75" inch reach and will weigh right around what Oscar weighed. Then on top of that Martinez uses his height sparingly. He is quick to brawl and give up his size. Kind of like Williams does.
Now on to Pacquiao. This guy fought Antonio Margarito who stands 5-11 with a 73" inch reach. Pacquiao almost killed him in the ring. And as far as we know almost wiped out his vision in one eye. Margarito also came in the ring nothing short of Middlewight.
Not to mention he fought Clottey who was a huge tank of a punching bag on fight night against Pac.
These same retard fans of his screamed up and down that he would dominate Yuri Foreman when that fight was being mentioned for March of 2010. Mind you Yuri Foreman stands 5-11 with a 72" inch reach. Not ONE Pac fan said Foreman would beat him. Not ONE. I know you guys remember when that fight was a possiblity but Pac turned it down.
Now again Martinez stands 5-10 with a 75" inch reach. So what is the problem?
Weight? Cant be. Thats been disproven.
Its the fact that Martinez isnt a slow, feather fisted, plodder with no boxing skills. Pac fans and some Floyd fans are straight terrified of him bcause he has legit pop, a pretty good beard, fast hands and boxing ability.
We'll see how you Pac fans spin it when Arum sets up Chavez Jr vs. Pac for a 9th title.
So in closing. Pac fans stop acting like females. You guys act like Pac is Billy Dib. And Floyd fans you guys are acting like hes Paulie Malinaggi.
If you guys are so scared for Pac and Floyd then tell them not to go fighting at JMW winning bogus titles mainly in Pacs case.
Rant over clowns.
Stop whining that Martinez is calling Floyd and Pac out. Its not like hes asking them to fly up to Middleweight. My goodness you bunch of freakin girls.
Martinez vs. Floyd and Pac at 154 is FAIR GAME. They won titles in the JMW division against guys with the same type of frame as Martinez.
Floyd Mayweather beat Oscar De LeHoya at 154 pounds.
Oscar stands 5-10 1/2 and has a 73 inch reach and was nothing short of a Middleweight on fight night. Period. Floyd handled with him ease and took at least 9 rounds out of 12.
Martinez is 5-10 with a 75" inch reach and will weigh right around what Oscar weighed. Then on top of that Martinez uses his height sparingly. He is quick to brawl and give up his size. Kind of like Williams does.
Now on to Pacquiao. This guy fought Antonio Margarito who stands 5-11 with a 73" inch reach. Pacquiao almost killed him in the ring. And as far as we know almost wiped out his vision in one eye. Margarito also came in the ring nothing short of Middlewight.
Not to mention he fought Clottey who was a huge tank of a punching bag on fight night against Pac.
These same retard fans of his screamed up and down that he would dominate Yuri Foreman when that fight was being mentioned for March of 2010. Mind you Yuri Foreman stands 5-11 with a 72" inch reach. Not ONE Pac fan said Foreman would beat him. Not ONE. I know you guys remember when that fight was a possiblity but Pac turned it down.
Now again Martinez stands 5-10 with a 75" inch reach. So what is the problem?
Weight? Cant be. Thats been disproven.
Its the fact that Martinez isnt a slow, feather fisted, plodder with no boxing skills. Pac fans and some Floyd fans are straight terrified of him bcause he has legit pop, a pretty good beard, fast hands and boxing ability.
We'll see how you Pac fans spin it when Arum sets up Chavez Jr vs. Pac for a 9th title.
So in closing. Pac fans stop acting like females. You guys act like Pac is Billy Dib. And Floyd fans you guys are acting like hes Paulie Malinaggi.
If you guys are so scared for Pac and Floyd then tell them not to go fighting at JMW winning bogus titles mainly in Pacs case.
Rant over clowns.
If u think its a duck to not fight a guy who's gonna out weigh u by 20-30 pounds on fight night I don't know what to say. Pac is "afraid" of sergio the same way sergio is "afraid" of vitali.
likewise, martinez fans shouldn't cry like babies if floyd and/or pac are not willing to go back to 154 pounds, as neither intended to stay there in the first place. Floyd only did it for Money (Oscar was the cash cow and floyd promptly returned to 147 immediately after, whereas Pac did it for history (at a catchweight of 150) and he to promptly went right back down immeidatley after).
Accept that these fights aren't going to happen because of the difference in size.
Sure, Pac could beat Yuri Foreman. And I'm sure Floyd could beat Edison Miranda at 168. Doesn't mean they belong there.
Exactly. Its not rocket science
If you guys are so scared for Pac and Floyd then tell them not to go fighting at JMW winning bogus titles mainly in Pacs case.
Rant over clowns.
Well, Sergio calling out 154 is kind of naive.
He's not the draw, sorry.
Is it reasonable? Really, what is closer to a good catch weight? Not 154.
LOL @ Burner...
According to Burner Pac-JMM III size will play a role,
But, for Pac-Martinez, Floyd-Martinez size doesn't play a role.
Somebody needs to explain to me how that makes any sense.
When did I say size doesnt play a role? Martinez uses his length at times. So obviously his size will play a role.
Playing a role is one thing. Saying Pac shouldnt fight him because of it is a joke. No one said that when Yuri Foreman-Pacquiao was in discussion. NO ONE.
that is a very valid point as well but if your going to run your mouth all the time and talk about this or that fighter is SO GREAT then you BETTER BE READY FOR THE CHALLENGES THAT COMES WITH THOSE CLAIMS!
it is PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that Mayweather and Pacquiao BOTH CHERRY PICK! They only pick and choose fights that are WINNABLE, that is why when Martinez was the Champion at 154...Pacquiao wasn't talking about making History and going after that 154 WBC Belt when Martinez HAD IT! Then after he VACATED it...OH LETS GO MAKE HISTORY! :nonono:
BY THE WAY, I am not saying that Martinez would beat either one, I think both of those guys have the SPEED TO GIVE MARTINEZ PROBLEMS, I think Mayweather accuracy would give him problems and I think Manny's hand speed would give him problems even at 150-154, Martinez does keep his hands down and lets not pretend like Pavlik (as slow as he is) didn't drop him and land a few good shots on him as did Williams in the 1st Fight as well as the 2nd fight before getting KO'd, Martinez is slick...BUT HE CAN BE HIT and I want to see how he does against an Opponent FASTER THEN HE IS! I think Martinez would have problem with a guy that is Quicker/Faster then he is.
FAIL...... pacquiao just win WW championship a month before PwiLL-martinez.
for the topic, let's just say both man doesn't need Martinez, sadly
LOL @ Burner...
According to Burner Pac-JMM III size will play a role,
But, for Pac-Martinez, Floyd-Martinez size doesn't play a role.
Somebody needs to explain to me how that makes any sense.
burner is a biased mofo
I agree with B....the fans been crying a river since Sergio realised a closed mouth doesn't get fed....I mean dudes been throwing Cotto...B.Hop and the 168 pounders in the air to mix it up with Sergio...its been funny reading some of the posts on Manny/Floyd vs Sergio......NOW in REALITY....Sergio is too fukkin big....haters and lovers alike have to live with that...it is what it is :boxing:
LOL @ Burner...
According to Burner Pac-JMM III size will play a role,
But, for Pac-Martinez, Floyd-Martinez size doesn't play a role.
Somebody needs to explain to me how that makes any sense.
im rooting for pac-martinez to happen.
but let's not pretend there isn't a significant size advantage for sergio and pacquiao or floyd is obligated to fight him.
pac and floyd don't have the same frame size as sergio. may be floyd but not pac. just look at the marg-pac, odlh-pac, clottey-pac and even ssm-pac staredown and you can see the size difference. and sergio has the same frame size as odlh, marg and clottey.
Fight Night weight:
Clottey 165-168
Margarito 165
You done making excuses yet?
Who is making excuses? Pac beat those guys = Pac as big as them? You did not even bothered to read my post. Pac fought Clottey and Margarito at 147/150 not in 154. ok? why not Pac vs Martinez 150? You don't want Martinez to fight Pac at 150 because its not fair but instead you want Pac to fight at 154. LOL @ your hypocrisy.
I hate to say this but you are blinded by your hate. Can't you see? Pac is 5'6 in height and never been weigh in more than 149 lbs in all his fights between 145-150 fight night while his opponents were between 5'9"-5'11" in height and weighed in between 10-17 lbs more. Now if you can see the size difference just because Pac beat them with ease then you are hopeless retardted beyond any words we can say. Pac been saying this after the Margaritos fight, "I will fight anybody as long as in 150 and below." Now the problem with the Martinez fight, he cant make it to 150 right now without maybe affecting his performance. Pac is the one who called a shot here and not Martinez so we will never see this fight happening in 154. 5'10" in height Martinez last fight at LMW he weighed in 168 fight night and while 5'6" in height Pacquio last fight at LMW, he weighed in 149. I dont know if you can do mathematic calculation but its worth if you try. 5'10"-5'6"=?, 168-149=? now, dont try so hard, I'm afraid your brain might explode.
Fight Night weight:
Clottey 165-168
Margarito 165
You done making excuses yet?
YEP!!!
And I think it is out of FEAR more then anything, they KNOW Martinez style would be a MAJOR problem for either fighter...so now they are thinking: "Hey lets use the...HE IS TOO BIG EXCUSE NOW!" lol :nonono: nobody ever said Margarito was too big...WHY? because he was coming off of getting DESTROYED BY Mosley and he is very slow and flat footed
but to be fair, the "HE IS TOO BIG" excuse is mostly coming from Pacquiao Fans more then anything, of course they are going to say that because that is what the A$$ KISSING TOP RANK WRITERS (Rick Rockwell and Michael Marley) are writing, a lot of these fans don't have a mind or an opinion of their own, all they do is come to these boxing forums and quote what OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING/WRITING :no:
BANG! What are you gonna do Pacquiao and Mayweather fans...NEGATIVE REP ME FOR POSITING THE TRUTH! hahaha:****you:
I hate to say this but you are blinded by your hate. Can't you see? Pac is 5'6 in height and never been weigh in more than 149 lbs in all his fights between 145-150 fight night while his opponents were between 5'9"-5'11" in height and weighed in between 10-17 lbs more. Now if you can see the size difference just because Pac beat them with ease then you are hopeless retardted beyond any words we can say. Pac been saying this after the Margaritos fight, "I will fight anybody as long as in 150 and below." Now the problem with the Martinez fight, he cant make it to 150 right now without maybe affecting his performance. Pac is the one who called a shot here and not Martinez so we will never see this fight happening in 154. 5'10" in height Martinez last fight at LMW he weighed in 168 fight night and while 5'6" in height Pacquio last fight at LMW, he weighed in 149. I dont know if you can do mathematic calculation but its worth if you try. 5'10"-5'6"=?, 168-149=? now, dont try so hard, I'm afraid your brain might explode.
I like both fighters, but i would luv Floyd to fight Sergio more then floyd fight Manny. IMO I think Manny would get KO'd by Sergio and Floyd would last the whole fight but idk if he would win. So i dont really a $hit who sergio call out.