Why are some posters acting like if there is no huge size difference in this fight(that will never happen)?
And, like if the size difference wouldn't matter?
Big whoop?
Losing in a boxing match is not the same as losing in lets say basketball or football man. Fighting a dangerous big guy like Martinez is not just about risking a loss on his record, it is a health risk.
Pac can get seriously hurt and not have a future at all, in anything.
That's what you haters wanna see really. He is not in anyway shape or form obliged to fight the MW champ to prove himself.
Lmfao, Cry me a fukking river... Why do u care about Pac's health... Dick-rider, man, who gives a shyt. It seems like people like u only don't want to see the fight becuz Pac can lose and get hurt....
No one is saying he's obligated to do it, (no one that matters) all people r saying is that it would be a good fight. And yet u guys r too worried about Pac's health, and his money, and his pride... GoDamn get his dick out ur mouth
lol why do you want pac to fight martinez in the first place? do you think he will be competititve against sergio? do you think he can overcome martinez's advantages? i asked because you've displayed to be more of a pac doubter than a pac believer. i know a lot of people who want to see pac gets beaten...are you one of them?
I don't care about Pac. I don't care if he wins or loses. I want to see that fight becuz it sounds like a good fight. I think Pac can win, I think Sergio can win.... Its as simple as that. The only agenda I have is to see Pac in a real fight as oppose to the shyt he's been in
Clottey, Margarito and Martinez are ALL THE SAME SIZE!
because Martinez is a MIDDLEWEIGHT for a while and currently the LINEAL MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION of the WORLD.
While Margarito and Clottey will have their 1st MIDDLEWEIGHT FIGHT SOON!! im sure of it!
:D
that's what i'm talking about.
manny ain't even fought any top welters.
green k.
anyone who isn't a pactard knows this.
damn pac dickriders.
bunch of fools being hustled for ppv money.
LMAO!! :D
You're in a good run!!
I like the thread about Sergio's potential opponents :lol1:
one more and i'll give you green :)
maybe you need to rewatch that fight and see who won between these two.
you are full of nothing but excuses like all the other pactards.
i so hope floyd takes this fight. unlike pac, floyd will fight a 154 legitimately. i understand yall want to say yalls guy is great without showing it so move on
Keep dreaming and hoping, in your dream Floyd already fought welterweight Cotto Margarito and Pacquiao. So why he can't do the same to JMW Martinez? Yeah keep dreaming because it is free.
Why are some posters acting like if there is no huge size difference in this fight(that will never happen)?
And, like if the size difference wouldn't matter?
They made a comparison when Pac fought Margarito with 17 lbs advantage over Pac but completely ignoring the fact....Martinez would be easily outweigh Pac by 21 or more lbs fight night. If they fight at 154 no catchweight, this would be the weight outcome.
weigh in:
Martinez 154
Pacquiao 144
154-144=10 lbs for Martinez
fight night:
Martinez 170
Pacquiao 149
170-154 (Martinez weigh in)=16 lbs for Martinez
10+16=26-5 from Pac fight night weigh in=21 lbs Martinez over Pac fight night! Pac haters and flomos totally turned blind in this fact. They just want to see Pac loses and nothing more.
did you say that **** when pac was going to fight clottey or marg? and how concerned were you about margs health after the beating he took even though pac was smaller.
i doubt you are this concerned about a boxers well being. you are just a pactard making up excuses for your god
Pacquiao shouldn't be expected to fight Martinez. When you're that big a star...forget it. Not happening. I'd be happy seeing him fight the best welters but he can't even do that.
You're a clown Pac just cleaned up the WW division. Who he missed? Ortiz just recently won and had his 1st fight at WW before being labeled a quitter. Berto was always a hypejob.
Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and mosley were and are still( if they can make weight ) top WW's of the past 5 years.
no body said anything bout size until s.martinez name was brought up
Margarito 6'1 165 vs Pac 5'6 148 fight night
S.Martinez 5'10 165 vs dzinziruk 6 165
Size or Skill
seriously man.. i don't mind when people argue but this guys makes no sense...
true, true. i didn't put him on ignore since i made it a point to never put anyone on ignore, but is simply no longer reply to his posts.
he's like a barking dog. its rather foolish barking back at it so might as well ignore it and move on.
my advise for you man is to just ignore him. i'm not the type to call people names, but regarding that guy? he's the village idiot.
its truly a waste of time trying to talk sense with him.
its like some mental institute had wifi and one of their patients had online access....
seriously man.. i don't mind when people argue but this guys makes no sense...
wtf exactly are you talking about hater?
my advise for you man is to just ignore him. i'm not the type to call people names, but regarding that guy? he's the village idiot.
its truly a waste of time trying to talk sense with him.
its like some mental institute had wifi and one of their patients had online access....
Because he CAN'T fight at 154. He couldn't physically handle Margarito at 150. He couldn't handle an easy fight against Margarito, think about that. He said he would never fight again at 154 before Martinez beat Williams.
Pacquiao is not a junior middleweight. His title there was a fraud. Why can't you people just accept that and let the dude stay at welterweight?
They keep bringing up how he fought Marg, which was at 150,
what's hilarious is the same people who kept *****ing about how Marg was weight drained cuz of the 4 pounds or even Cotto with the 2 pounds, are now saying that, Pac should fight Serg at JUST 4 MORE lbs than the Marg fight.
It's ****ing ridiculous what these haters say.
So he can retire afterward..... Big whoop.
Pac is more than capable of beating Martinez, but at the same time, Martinez can beat Pac. Something that can't be said of the people Pac's been fighting lately.
Big whoop?
Losing in a boxing match is not the same as losing in lets say basketball or football man. Fighting a dangerous big guy like Martinez is not just about risking a loss on his record, it is a health risk.
Pac can get seriously hurt and not have a future at all, in anything.
That's what you haters wanna see really. He is not in anyway shape or form obliged to fight the MW champ to prove himself.
No one ever said size wont play a role. Ofcourse Martinez uses his size. Still has nothing to do with the fact that Pac wants nothing to do with him at 154.
Because he CAN'T fight at 154. He couldn't physically handle Margarito at 150. He couldn't handle an easy fight against Margarito, think about that. He said he would never fight again at 154 before Martinez beat Williams.
Pacquiao is not a junior middleweight. His title there was a fraud. Why can't you people just accept that and let the dude stay at welterweight?
I don't have a problem with people wanting to see the fight. It's a very interesting fight, just to see if Pacquiao could beat one more guy too big for him.
But calling it a duck? You're a moron if you say that. I can't handle the idiocy from the people saying Pacquiao is ducking Martinez anymore.
he was being accused of ducking margarito before.
There you go. No one can't provide links saying Pac fans are dying to see this Marg fight. Arum basically shoved this fight right down fans' throats. Again, if Pac rejected this fight he would have been accused of ducking Margarito. This is the root of these Sergio discussions. Had Arum made the effort to go for smaller fighters like Berto, these discussions would disappear as soon as they come.