pascal is the 175 lbs version of berto

Both gas, both are amatuerish, both are haitian, both have good power and speed, both are musclebound, both are good enough to beat mediocre competion, but not good enough to beat elite competition. Not until you can identify Berto's equivalent to Chad Dawson can you seriously ask that question.

Resume goes to Pascal. Berto needs to beat Cintron and draw with Mosley to make it closer

Berto vs Ortiz 1-6 punches thrown 230 (38 per round) 7-12 246(41 per round) Berto vs Forbes 1-6 punches thrown 323 (53 per round) 7-12 304 (51 per round) Berto averaged 53 per round against Collazo(can't find round by round for this fight or the urango fight but he averaged 50 plus against urango too) Berto vs Quintana 1-4 206 (51 per round) 5-8 246(61 per round) where does he gas? Ortiz had that pressure on him and was beating his ass early and he still managed to up the amount of punches he threw. Say what you want but Berto stamina is just fine

Both gas, both are amatuerish, both are haitian, both have good power and speed, both are musclebound, both are good enough to beat mediocre competion, but not good enough to beat elite competition. I was actually thinking the same thing. Both are muscular, with power and speed, but thats it... good eye and post, Pullcounter.:fing02:

like the one dude said Berto only gassed because Ortiz was beating his ass other than that Berto has never gassed, don't know where you get this

Pascal has a much better chin. IMO.

Berto got better skills than pascal tho Kind of Pull. But its not saying much though. I think they are both very athletic raw fighters. Berto I think has reached his potential. I cant see him being better than he is now. But Pascal has potential. Hops was right about him. That dude can punch, hes fast and tough as nails. His style is just brutal though. He fights like 40 seconds a round. He has to get his stamina in check and start using that handspeed to his advantage. He also needs to set up his power shots and jab.

Pascal has fought Hopkins twice, Froch and Chad Dawson and Pascal was the Number 1 guy in the division. So yeah lets not EVER compare him to Berto. Berto got better skills than pascal tho

Both gas, both are amatuerish, both are haitian, both have good power and speed, both are musclebound, both are good enough to beat mediocre competion, but not good enough to beat elite competition. And THE BEST ANALOGY OF THE MONTH GOES TO Pullcounter !!! Take a bow.

Pascal has fought Hopkins twice, Froch and Chad Dawson and Pascal was the Number 1 guy in the division. So yeah lets not EVER compare him to Berto.

Berto's better than Pascal... Pascal gases in fights...Berto "gased" cuz Ortiz was kicking his ass... I see some similarities but Berto is more polished and isn't as amateurish... I think berto is a tad more skillful, but they both gas and arent that good. Good enough to win belts but not good enough to hang with truly elite boxers

Berto's better than Pascal... Pascal gases in fights...Berto "gased" cuz Ortiz was kicking his ass... I see some similarities but Berto is more polished and isn't as amateurish...

lol well to bertos respect hes a bit sharper with his punches, pascal does this rushing thing with his head down Ya damn skippy! Pascal is a swimmer, well against Hopkins he did a bit

lol well to bertos respect hes a bit sharper with his punches, pascal does this rushing thing with his head down

You can talk about divisions and resumes and managers all u want but both guys are essentially the same boxer at there respective weight divisions.

Difference is Berto class.. the top guys are Pac and Floyd... fair enough, but there was also decent names at ww like cintron, clottey, even judah! no need to fight dudes like hernandez

Difference is pascal actually beat the man at his class and gave bhop the rematch.. berto wouldnt have done that Difference is Berto class.. the top guys are Pac and Floyd...

Pascal has the better resume and he actually beat the #1 guy in the division and a pound 4 pounder in chad dawson. Berto beat, ahh, Collazo and Urango I agree that pascal has a better resume, but only because his managers dont do a good a job protecting berto as haymon protects berto... also pascal isnt overpaiid like berto

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is this your attempt to discredit hopkins?? This has nothing to do with hopkins... we are comparing berto to pascal