Original Thread authored by marbleheadmaui of Saddos
Who is manny like
Given the fight this coming weekend I thought I'd take a crack at putting Manny in some sort of historical perspective. One way to do that is to find fighter's whose resumes share major characteristics with Manny's I think there are two at the top of the list. But before we look at those two let me outline what I think are Manny's major accomplishments. Not in any order
1. Has won THE MAN championships in four divisions (in an era of 17 of them)
2. Has defeated highly ranked fighters across five of the original divisions and ten of today's
3. One of only 5-6 teenage champions in history
4. Has probably defeated HOFers on 5-7 occasions
5. Has over 50 wins
Now let's look at two guys from yesteryear.
Jimmy McLarnin-What does he share with Manny?
1. Defeated top ranked fighters from 112-147
2. Carried his power so well he won the undisputed 147 crown with a KO1. (Musta been the steroids)
3. Began as a teenager
4. Fifty or so career wins
5. Wins over HOFers on 10+ occasions
McLarnin is usually in folks top fifty all-time but not often above 30 or so. Here's the other guy.
Tony Canzoneri-What does he share with Manny?
1. Defeated top ranked fighters from 118-147
2. Was undisputed champion at 126, 135 and 140. Got a draw fighting for the undisputed 118 crown as a teenager. This was in a time of only ten divisions.
3. Carried his power so well he won the 135 crown with a KO1 and the 140 crown with a KO3. (Musta been the steroids)
4. Defeated HOFers on 10+ occasions
5. An unbelievable athlete who fought with his hands at his waist and his jaw thrust forward. He'd try to get you to throw and then counter the bejeezus out of you.
6. By the time he got to 147 he too was really undersized at 5'4 with a 68" reach.
Now Canzoneri finished with 137 wins, with over 30 over ranked guys and usually appears ranked in the 25-35 kind of range.
Just for some perspective on what Manny has done.
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Now can we stop saying that 'Manny is doing things that has never been done before' ??? or you can dispute this.
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Foreign climber willing to do whatever it takes to make it in America, promiscuous, in Politics, entourage and sense of entitlement, liar, et cetera...
Is this Ben Thompson?
:lol1:
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Foreign climber willing to do whatever it takes to make it in America, promiscuous, in Politics, entourage and sense of entitlement, liar, et cetera...
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that's floyd. :lol1:
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Foreign climber willing to do whatever it takes to make it in America, promiscuous, in Politics, entourage and sense of entitlement, liar, et cetera...
McLarnin and Pac are very similar. Damn near the same height, same reach, very similar size. McLarnin fought the first Filipino great in Pancho Villa around 118 or so. Then McLarnin went up to WW and KO'd HOF'er Young Corbett III in just one round. And, destroyed a very old Benny Leonard in 6 I believe.
Very similar to Pac going up and KO'ing Hatton in 2 and destroying an old Oscar.
Of course course Corbett and Leonard>Hatton and Oscar.
But, still they have a lot of similarities.
I do rank McLarnin>>>Pac in my ranking. But, that's beyond the point.
"Manny doesn't know what he takes, I make special blends and give it to him to take, but he has no idea what it is."
dodge the original thread and make another thread to garner attention from fellow pactards instead of engaging in meaningful discussion.
a true pactard story.
what time is it right now? is it only me when i say this thread is being avoided? or theyre brain storming how to spin an argument.
Flomos avoid these kinds of thread because of miron_lang`s rep power.
what time is it right now? is it only me when i say this thread is being avoided? or theyre brain storming how to spin an argument.
The main evidence againts Pacquiao is "He's doing things that has never been done before" about PEDS use.
w/c is actually wrong with the accomplishment of McLarnin and Canzoneri.
so what now?
Just take the test Pac?