Other than post silly smilies you havent laid out why you dissagree. I made a thread to get some vptes going to see what others think.
I posted an argument you ignored it. Lets just see the poll.
you grade it with their overrall resume not by their last fight!
Cotto, Mosley will be the greater fighter than that Pascal! I'm sure of that!
pac should call out Ali. he's old enough too and would be great for the resume
Yeah its fvcking useless :nonono: :puke:
Other than post silly smilies you havent laid out why you dissagree. I made a thread to get some vptes going to see what others think.
Yes. Clearly. I think most would agree. Hes the better fighter and has the better resume. Not to mention he has a GREAT chance to make a serious run for the HOF. The Road Wrrior is no joke bro.
And I like Ricky he held down JWW for years. But Johnson >Ricky imo.
jesus f*ck it's useless....
:smashfrea
Yeah its fvcking useless :nonono: :puke:
Yes. Clearly. I think most would agree. Hes the better fighter and has the better resume. Not to mention he has a GREAT chance to make a serious run for the HOF. The Road Wrrior is no joke bro.
And I like Ricky he held down JWW for years. But Johnson >Ricky imo.
You're a guy that wont chance his mind no matter what but im not like that so you might even convince me
so lets try this.
me and the other dude was talking about the actual win at the time. at least i was thinking that.
but the last post you quoted clearly states the comparison between Jonhnson and Hatton.
so let me start
Ricky Hatton was the lineal Jr Welterweight champion and lost only to 2 ATG fighters and were the BEST FIGHTER in the WORLD at the time.
While the road Warrior as i have stated have lost to thousands of bums.
are you saying that a shot Roy Jones or a Tarver is a better win than Tzyu ?
This is not even debatable WTF.
What the??!!!
answer it.
Do you rank Glen Johnson over Ricky Hatton?
OMG I must have overestimated these people :nonono:
Yes. Clearly. I think most would agree. Hes the better fighter and has the better resume. Not to mention he has a GREAT chance to make a serious run for the HOF. The Road Wrrior is no joke bro.
And I like Ricky he held down JWW for years. But Johnson >Ricky imo.
if you rank Glen Fvcking Johnson over hatton you're an idiot. who doesnt know ****.
Kostya Tsyu kills everyone that Johnson has beaten pound for pound including johnson himself.
You need to take a deep breath and think it over kid. Its moronic. LMAO
look at this murderers row Emmanuel Augustus would be proud :D
Merqui Sosa
Joseph Kiwanuka
Sven Ottke
Syd Vanderpool
Silvio Branco
Omar Sheika
Derrick Harmon
Julio Cesar Gonzalez
Antonio Tarver
Clinton Woods
Chad Dawson
Tavoris Cloud
Are you serious?
if you rank hatton over johnson you're dumb. hatton was mostly HYPE. johnson has wins over tarver, woods, & jones. johnson practically beat dawson in that first fight. hopkins not only have greater wins but he has GREATER DIVERSITY. hopkins has fought elite brawlers, boxers, punchers, EVERY & any kind of style there is while pac has mainly thrived against the come forward brawler type.
hopkins record sh*ts on pacs.
give it up kid.....
if you rank Glen Fvcking Johnson over hatton you're an idiot. who doesnt know ****.
Kostya Tsyu kills everyone that Johnson has beaten pound for pound including johnson himself.
You need to take a deep breath and think it over kid. Its moronic. LMAO
look at this murderers row Emmanuel Augustus would be proud :D
Merqui Sosa
Joseph Kiwanuka
Sven Ottke
Syd Vanderpool
Silvio Branco
Omar Sheika
Derrick Harmon
Julio Cesar Gonzalez
Antonio Tarver
Clinton Woods
Chad Dawson
Tavoris Cloud
Its between Hopkins and Froch. No one else really even comes close to those 2.
pac was beat by moralas & most think he lost both fights to marquez......
its about how you BEAT you're *greatest* opponents too.
hopkins record sh*ts on pacs......
Hopkins lost to Clinton Mitchell at ligheavyweight LMAO!!!
twice to a BUM pretending to be good named Jermain Taylor
Lost to an Injured Roy Jones Jr. WTF?????!
Lost to Joe Calzaghe :D
Its not even close. BWAA thinks so.
Its between Hopkins and Froch. No one else really even comes close to those 2.
Carl Froch beat Pascal 1st. That means Pascal is Froch's leftover right?
if you even THINK to rate a hatton win over a johnson ko (who's incredibly HARD to knock out. near to impossible) you are indeed smoking crack.
even a undefeated middleweight johnson with over 30 fights ranks higher then a hatton win. (especially when johnson was stopped in his tracks & tko'd for the first & ONLY time)
HOLLY SH*T THIS FORUM.
Bwahaahahaha
can i ask how old are you?
Glen Johnson?
He's a solid Gate keeper but ranking him above Hatton is just idiotic.
Do you think these fighters were ALL TIME GREAT?
Merqui Sosa
Joseph Kiwanuka
Sven Ottke
Syd Vanderpool
Silvio Branco
Omar Sheika
Derrick Harmon
Julio Cesar Gonzalez
Antonio Tarver
Clinton Woods
Chad Dawson
Tavoris Cloud
and Johnson even had less experience when Hop beat him. Tarver's victory is more meaningful.
HOLLY SH*T THIS nOOBS :nonono:
And, I agree Tito>JMM and is not even debatable.
160lbs Trinidad againts 130lbs Marquez ???
Lets debate and disagree its useless talking to these nOObs. Oscar greater than Morales? WTF?
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130lbs Marquez was the absolute version while Trinidad's havoc was done at 147. Obviously he's too small for the Light Heavyweight Hopkins.
130 Marquez > 160 Trinidad
barrera better than oscar?
i'm not to sure about hatton bein better than johnson either i know record wise he might be better but i think johnson is the better fighter.
as much of a fan of marquez that i am i'm not sure if he is better than tito atleast if your goin by resume i think trinidads resume is better than marquez but i do think marquez is the better boxer
Without a muthafucking doubt.
Not only is Barrera an ATG, unlike Oscar(Yes Oscar is a HOF'er but he's not an ATG, Barrera is). But, Barrera was prime and the man at 126 when Pac beat him. You can't say the same thing about Oscar when B-hop beat him.
Johnson and Hatton is a little tough. Johnson was seen as green when Hop fought him, while Hatton was seen as damaged goods when Pac fought him. However, Hatton was coming off a win over a top 10 JWW prior to fighting Pac. And, that win was probably better than any win Johnson had at MW. Hatton was still the man at JWW, and was undefeated. And, had done more in that division than what Johnson did at MW.
You guys have to remember when comparing wins. More importantly than who is when.
And, I agree Tito>JMM and is not even debatable.
uLOL
Better than Floyds but Not even close to Pacquiao's :thinking:
Marco Antonio Barrera > Oscar Dela Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez > Tito Trinidad
Miguel Cotto > Pavlik
Sasakul > Tarver
Ledwabba > Pascal
Morales > Winky
Hatton > Johnson
Rest of Pac opponents > rest of Bhops
BWAA > Flomos
barrera better than oscar?
i'm not to sure about hatton bein better than johnson either i know record wise he might be better but i think johnson is the better fighter.
as much of a fan of marquez that i am i'm not sure if he is better than tito atleast if your goin by resume i think trinidads resume is better than marquez but i do think marquez is the better boxer
This thread is closed son.
Thanks for the red.Next time just try to debate a little. The reason why I agree Hop has the best resume is because of the length and the time he fought guys. He has beaten good fighters while he is not in his prime. Was underdog against Trinidad, Pavlik and Tarver and didnt just beat them but picked them apart. Plus he fought every style there is. He fought guys known to be big punchers like Pavlik and Trinidad and also difficult styles to look good against like Winky and Tarver. His last clear lost was to a prime Roy Jones. The body of work stacks up very well. And this is not to take anything away from Pac. His run has been incredible as well. I just feel Hopkins resume has so many different styles that he conquered( some not even in his prime)that I would give him the nod. Oh and lets not forget the 20 title defenses while he was in his prime. Dude is exceptional. The thing is he close to the end and doing this at 46 witch makes it even more impressive.
Hopkins' resume isn't any better than Roy Jones' over the decades.
Hopkins outpointed Jones -- Jones outpointed Bernard Hopkins
Hopkins outpointed Tarver -- Jones outpointed Antonio Tarver
Hopkins outpointed Wright -- Jones outpointed Mike McCallum
Hopkins decisioned Pascal -- Jones knocked out Virgil Hill
Hopkins decisioned Pavlik -- Jones decisioned James Toney
Hopkins beat Trinidad -- Jones beat Trinidad
Hopkins beat Oscar -- Jones beat John Ruiz
Hopkins beat Joppy -- Jones beat Jeff Lacy
Hopkins beat Glen Johnson -- Jones beat Gonzales, Harmon and Woods (who all beat Johnson)
Hopkins lost to Calzaghe -- Jones lost to Calzaghe
It took Hopkins three tries at vacant IBF middleweight belts before he finally beat Segundo Mercado (not a Hall of Famer) and it took him two cracks at Pascal's (not a Hall of Famer) WBC belt before he won it.
Jones won the IBF Middleweight belt the first time out -- beating Hopkins (Hall of Famer). Jones won the Super Middleweight title first time out by beating Toney (Hall of Famer).
Hopkins won titles from middleweight to light heavyweight ... Jones won titles from middleweight to heavyweight.
Hopkins had 20 successful defenses in one division, Jones had 18 successful defenses over three divisions.
Jones' career started faster than Hopkins' did. Hopkins couldn't win the middleweight title until Jones left the division. But Hopkins has finished stronger.
In other words, if Hopkins is the best fighter of the last 20 years, then Jones is tied for first with him. Because Hopkins' accomplishments aren't any better. And I don't think anyone is willing to rate Jones that high. Hopkins doesn't deserve to be either.
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