Where does Hopkins rank p4p?

Your logic and reasoning continues to be extremely flawed. BHop hasnt been beaten convincingly in 18 years! The two taylor fights and the Calzaghe fights were highly controversial and those two guys were highly touted. Also the first fights wasn't a draw lets be real, and Pascal is in his prime and was the legit world champion. Bhop is top 5 p4p and has been for quite some time, since the Trinidad fight imo. JMM losing to PBF didnt drop him at all. BHop best resume in boxing, and one of the few if not the only one of this era who is an all time great.

that the oddsmakers are stupid? Oscar de la hoya was a favorite to beat pacquiao, what does that tell you? that pacquiao shouldn't have been on the P4P list? Your logic is retarded and flawed. Well considering DLH is more highly rated than Pascal so Pac beating DLH means Pac is no1 p4p because he beat DLH who was supposed to beat Pac on paper. BH beating a not highly rated Pascal and being underdog dont catapult him into the top 10. But i think BH is deserving of top 10 for compensation alone for people underestimating him in match ups. But if he was genuine top 10 p4p he would have dominated Pascal more than he did. For his age he is amazing though.

First fight should have been a W. After that second fight, he is definitely in the top 10.

I have him at Number 2, right after Martinez. This fukking guy, lmao!! :lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

In my opinion, Bernard Hopkins should be Number 2 on the P4P list. Breaking a record like winning a legitimate World title at 46 years old and competing against the elite fighters of today are to be respected.

I have him at Number 2, right after Martinez.

top 4 above jmm...

If BH was a top ten p4p fighter he should have been overwhelming favourite against Pascal, as Pascal isnt a top ten fighter. The fact that he wasnt favoured to beat Pascal what does that tell you? And even then if BH beats Pascal, how does that suddenly make him a top 10 p4p on the basis of beating someone who wasnt top ten p4p in Pascal, and BH was supposed to lose to Pascal also. Having said that i think he deserves to be rated highly p4p on the basis i think he is underated by the people who predict him to lose all the time. Why should people think he would lose to a chump like Pascal.

There is no way BH is top 10 p4p. Anyone who gets a draw with Pascal isnt a top 10 p4p fighter. Of course if age was taken into consideration then BH would be king of the world, but we cant give CHARITY points for age here. BH has one of the best resumes of any current fighter, but that dont make him the best fighter p4p at this moment in time. If Sergio drew with Pascal no one would think much of sergio and he certainly wouldnt be no2 in the world. shut the fukc up please....... I honestly didnt know he came off the P4P list even after the Taylor losses he was on the list... The close JC figth shouldnt have moved him much... he's been in my top 9 since the Trinidad fight

Pac Martinez Hopkins JMM Nonito Wlad Jorge Arce Bradley Ward Vitali

There is no way BH is top 10 p4p. Anyone who gets a draw with Pascal isnt a top 10 p4p fighter. Of course if age was taken into consideration then BH would be king of the world, but we cant give CHARITY points for age here. BH has one of the best resumes of any current fighter, but that dont make him the best fighter p4p at this moment in time. If Sergio drew with Pascal no one would think much of sergio and he certainly wouldnt be no2 in the world.

People wanting to put froch ahead of bhop aren't accounting for the kessler loss and some other bhop performances. It's not just the pascal win last night that ranks him pfp. He probably never should have been dropped, even for the jocal loss considering that jocal is (sorry daggum) a great fighter wit a very difficult style to figure out. I'm guilty of underrating Hopkins pfp wise because of inactivity too and he's my favorite damn fighter.

1. Pac 2. Martinez 3. Donaire 4. Hopkins 5. JMM 6. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam 7. Giovanni Segura 8. Tomasz Adamek 9. Timothy Bradley 10. Wlad Klitschko

imo Froch should definitely be in the top ten. But gotta put Ward ahead of him. As far as BHop, he's 46 man. Dude was underappreciated and underrated throughout most of his career, especially during his prime. I remember the guy being a mainstay on Tuesday Night Fights on USA back in the day. Let him get his shine imo. He paid his dues, and certainly deserves to be overrated nowadays.

AboVe dre ward, that's for sure. Lower top 10.

:lol1: Hopkins goes straight in at 5 for a draw and a hardly massive wide dec over Pascal?? Then why the hell is Froch not even in the top 10 despite him beating Pascal a lot better? That's what I don't get. Froch beat Pascal more decisively and his last 6 fights look like this W Abraham L Kessler W Dirrell W Taylor W Reid Whereas Bhops look like this W Pascal D Pascal W Jones Jr. W Orneleas W Pavlik L Calzaghe Froch should be rated higher and how this guy isn't top 5 p4p or atleast around there is beyond me. FWIW my list is like this 1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Sergio Martinez 3. Nonito Donaire 4. Juan Manuel Marquez 5. Carl Froch 6. Timothy Bradley 7. Andre Ward 8. Bernard Hopkins 9. Wladimir Klitschko 10. Yuriorkis Gamboa

:lol1: Hopkins goes straight in at 5 for a draw and a hardly massive wide dec over Pascal?? Then why the hell is Froch not even in the top 10 despite him beating Pascal a lot better? i think people say so based on the fact that Bhop did this at the age of 46 where even 40 is considered geriatric in boxing.

lol @ the ring's p4p rankigs. They are trolling hardcore to include Miguel Cotto in the top ten. Thats just laughable. If Hopkins continues fighting and beating top opposition like Dawson, Bute, Cloud then he can easily be #1 p4p. He's fighting the very top fighters in his class which is more than you can say for the Pacs and Mayweathers of the world. I had BHop top 5 p4p before winning the title from Pascal.

Where does Hopkins rank p4p after consecutive wins against Pascal. 1. pac 2. martinez 3. nonito 4. jmm 5. hopkins

yeah every fighter who won his last fight should be automatically inserted in the top 10 P4P. thats a good basis