There was a subsequent post; carry on reading the thread and you'll see it.
If you require more, I'll post again tomorrow when I check back. It's 07:03am and I've had no sleep, so I'm gonna grab a few hours now. :)
I had just came back and I see your gone for the day. I'll just pm you my top 25 list as I rarely go past the first page as far as viewing threads on NSB.
hopkins wins yes but as far as overall skill level what they can do, how versatile they are hopkins is not top 5..... top 10 yes
pascal all heart but a glorified amateur and i like him but no stamina if he would of thrown a few more punches and learned how to slip a right hand he wins easily.
this is something top tier fighters can do......
no hes not the p4p king. Maybe the a4a, age for age, king.
He is the greatest fighter of this generation though, and the last man standing of a dying breed of fighters. Thats enough.
So I thought you were a Phillipino and you think that I'm a African, which I'm not.
Those two cancel each other out.
However,if you're not a Phillipino, then you have no excuse for being a unobjective retard.
Yeah you are not but your ancestors were from there, maybe. Back to the topic. Show me any links of boxing websites they had Hopkins in top 10 p4p list yesterday. Only the retard will do like you to put Hopkins as p4p#1 completely bypassing, ignoring the accomplishments of other top 10 p4p fighters.
Jean Pascal is a paper champion and won't ever be a hall of famer. Pacquiao just fought a first ballot hall of famer and is gonna fight another one in a few months.
Wow! First time I've ever used the term "pactard," but you really are it. Shane was my 2nd favorite fighter for years (after Bernard), but even I know that he had no business being in the ring after his ****ty run in 2010. Shane was as safe and as handpicked a fighter as you could get for Manny. Pascal may be raw, but any ******* with half a brain stem knows that he was infinitely more dangerous of an opponent than Shane could ever be at this stage of his career. :sad:
All factors considered, I'm tempted to say that what we just saw >>>>>>>>>> Pacquiao's last 3 wins put together.
What factors are you talking about?
Can you please elaborate more if you can.
Here we go again.. With all the Pac haters..
I wish all you dumb **** would jump off a cliff..
Cant we just celebrate a great win by B-Hop with out trying to fuk with Pac...
Let me guess, the first two on your list are there because they're the same nationality as you. And the third one because he gave Pacquiao fits but still lost and therefore a great win on the Pinnoy's resume.
If you're going to c0ck slurp, at least don't make it soo obvious. Mix it up a bit for crispe sake.
Fail! So you think I'm a Filipino? SMH! Typical of your kind way of thinking. Pac, Donaire and Marquez were in p4p top5 for quite sometimes. You can't just do it in your way as you please. Pac was a p4p#1 yesterday. Hopkins who was not even in top 10 p4p yesterday in any p4p list suddenly with a win today you replace Pac with Hopkins and dumped Pac out of the p4p list. LOL!
I have B-hop rated round there. I'm a little hyped over his win so after a day or so I'd probably place him between the 25-30 range.
Sorry, but I'm not the typed to over hype old school fighters to look like some boxing expert or win cool points on NSB. Let me guess, you want me to say he isn't top 50 and just randomly name old fighters to seem like some boxing guru.....fvkk outta here with that bullsh1t.
IMO Bhop is one of the greatest to ever do it and I feel he deserves to be that high. That's my opinion and if you think otherwise, cool we'll agree to disagree.
IMO Froch should be top 5 if we are looking at resumes as far as last 6-7 fights
He has wins over Pascal, Dirrell, Taylor, Abraham and Reid. How manny fighters can you name that has a resume that nice? This is coming from someone who doesn't even like Froch.
-Top Rank-
No where to be found after saying that Hops had one good win since '06.
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Maybe that's because in that same post I said "btw I feel he has 3" but if you want to play the technical and discredit game then its really one because if the same non-sense is used to discredit other fighters then to keep it 100 it should be applied to Bhop as well.
To keep it real....I give bhop full credit for his wins over Pavlik Winky and Pavlik. I also give Floyd full credit for wins over Hatton Judah Baldomir and Oscar as I do Manny for his wins over Hatton, Cotto, Margarito and soon to be Marquez.
You however are so d@mn biased and nothing but a troll and only give credit when it fits an agenda of yours.
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Hopkins himself would deny this.
I dread to think where you have Manny rated All-Time. :lol1:
I have B-hop rated round there. I'm a little hyped over his win so after a day or so I'd probably place him between the 25-30 range.
Sorry, but I'm not the typed to over hype old school fighters to look like some boxing expert or win cool points on NSB. Let me guess, you want me to say he isn't top 50 and just randomly name old fighters to seem like some boxing guru.....fvkk outta here with that bullsh1t.
IMO Bhop is one of the greatest to ever do it and I feel he deserves to be that high. That's my opinion and if you think otherwise, cool we'll agree to disagree.
To be honest his win over Pavlik is no better than Floyds win over Marquez. Both were brought up two divisions at a catchweight yet Bhop is praised and Floyd (and soon to be Manny) are slammed for something Bhop has made a out of.
FWIW Froch>>>>>Bhop p4p wise. Why Carl isn't top 5 is beyond me especially since he has a top 3 resume in boxing (last 6-8 fights).
****ing Froch?!? Everybody across the ponds thinks this guy is a master boxer because he outboxed Arthur Abraham. Take another look at the Dirrell fight to get a clue about Froch's boxing skills (hint: none). Don't be surprised if Froch gets embarrassed by crusty old Glen Johnson. Bhop would completely shut him down. What an entertaining promotion it would be though.
How isn't it different?
Marquez was the #1 fighter at lightweight. He skipped up two division to meat the #1 WW, Mayweather, at a catchweight. Two fighters two divisions apart.
Pavlik, the #1 MW jumped up two divisions to meet the #1 LHW Hopkins at a catchweight. Again two fighters two weight classes apart.
If you give Hopkins full credit, then you better give Floyd and soon to be Manny credit for doing the same thing. The simply fact that two fighters pull this stunt one time a get sh1tted on for something another fighter (Hopkins) has made a career off of, clearly shows Manny and Floyd are better because more is expected of them.
Don't get mad at me for pointing out the double standard.
FWIW props to Bhop on making history. Dude is a legend and top 25 ATG. I love his story, the fights be has giving me as a fan, and I feel privileged to witness a living legend like him in my lifetime. With that said, please don't use him as a way to sh1t on other fighters (not you but this is to no ceilings) because he is no different or better than Floyd or Manny.
Did you look at Pavlik-Hopkins as a tune up? Yes or No.
Now that is just stupid...seeing how Pavlik was FAVORED to win
But of course, since he lost and Hopkins isn't a Top Rank fighter, you are equating that to the JMM fight. Can you please acquire some objectivity
How isn't it different?
Marquez was the #1 fighter at lightweight. He skipped up two division to meat the #1 WW, Mayweather, at a catchweight. Two fighters two divisions apart.
Pavlik, the #1 MW jumped up two divisions to meet the #1 LHW Hopkins at a catchweight. Again two fighters two weight classes apart.
If you give Hopkins full credit, then you better give Floyd and soon to be Manny credit for doing the same thing. The simply fact that two fighters pull this stunt one time a get sh1tted on for something another fighter (Hopkins) has made a career off of, clearly shows Manny and Floyd are better because more is expected of them.
Don't get mad at me for pointing out the double standard.
FWIW props to Bhop on making history. Dude is a legend and top 25 ATG. I love his story, the fights be has giving me as a fan, and I feel privileged to witness a living legend like him in my lifetime. With that said, please don't use him as a way to sh1t on other fighters (not you but this is to no ceilings) because he is no different or better than Floyd or Manny.