Bob Arum and Top Rank Promotions have taken over boxing.
Top Rank has Manny Pacquaio who is a cash cow that is active and fights twice a year.
Now they got Showtime/CBS on board promoting fights on CBS.
Bob is using Pacquaio as bait to get other fighters to leave their promoters.
(Mosley,Marquez)
And in the future look for Bradley to join Top Rank with the promise of a fight with the cash cow.
Goldenboy better get new contracts on Ortiz,Maidana,Khan,Alvarez because the shark Bob Arum is on the prowl LOL.
GoldenBoy can no longer promise fighters a shot at Mayweather because the guy is semi retired and not active.
The only fighters who Mayweather can fight that would generate big PPV numbers are all signed to Top Rank.(Pacquaio,Cotto,Margarito)
Bob has Mayweather on the outside looking in.
Goldenboy can only offer Khan,Ortiz,Alvarez,Maidana,and maybe Morales to Mayweather.
With the exception of Morales, the other fighters don't generate alot of money or PPv's.(who wants to see mayweather vs morales?)
You hear bob Arum say things like Martinez is off of Pacquiao's radar.
If Bob Arum can somehow get Martinez to come to Top Rank, thats when he will be on Pacquaio's radar.(Mosley,Marquez were not on the radar either until they signed with top rank)
So basicly Bob and Top Rank are putting Mayweather and goldenboy out of business along with other promoters.
You better believe that HBO is gonna throw more money into the khan/bradley pot.
That will be their biggest fight of the year.
No Mayweather + No pacquaio =No big events for HBO, and Goldenboy............Sad
No Pacquaio + No Cotto + No Margarito = No big money guarantees for Mayweather.............Sad
Morales-Maidana and Khan-McCloskey both did more than 50,000 ppv, and the former did quite a bit more than that.
Golden Boy also has Ortiz and Alvarez, two big names.
And Top Rank is going downhill fast without PAC. Already PAC has stopped facing any tough or young opponents. How long will he fight? Maybe a year or Two at the most two. That's only a few more fights and he is done.
Gamboa, Lopez, Cotto, Vazquez Jr., Donaire, Montiel, Mike Jones, Soto, Antillon, Rios,ect,ect,ect
Top Rank stable ****s on Golden Boy's!!!!!
Didn't Arum say he hopes to do business with Golden Boy in the future?
arum had mentioned ortiz for a possible pac fight some weeks ago. he has to start somewhere.
this is why Boxing is SUFFERING, Arum is basically HOLD BOXING HOSTAGE...Mayweather is doing the same thing also, no wonder they don't get a long because they are very SIMILAR, they want to have everything their way or they will quickly leave the negotiation table
this is what happens when you have NO COMMISSIONER an you don't have just ONE GOVERNING BODY that can keep things FAIR and under control, the PROMOTERS and the Fighters that are the BIGGEST DRAWS ARE THE ONES THAT RUN BOXING and they can just CHERRY PICK who they want to fight
But I already know Timothy Bradley to Top Rank and a fight with Pacquiao in 2012 is pretty much a DONE DEAL...WHY IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK ARUM BEEN MENTIONING HIS NAME LATELY???, this is why HBO is scrabbling and is thinking about throwing more Money at trying to get the Khan vs Bradley fight done...Bradley is sitting back and LAUGHING and them all, he already has a Plan, the Plan is to let his contract with Shaw end in June then he will Jump to Top Rank and go BACK TO SHOWTIME! AND I Don't Blame Him!
Top Rank runs this rap sh*t.
GBP is on the same level as Dibella and Shaw aka they are small time. GBP hasn't even sold 50k ppvs this year total. While Top Rank has already sold more than 1.5 MILLION.
Arum is just a revolting slob he can have Mosley cuz he's garbage now I doubt anybody will order a PPV from him anymore and he can have Marquez who isn't gonna stick around for much longer as long as golden boy snatched up nonito donaire they aren't worried especially with the stable they already have GBP ain't trippin on fat f*^% arum
Bob Arum and Top Rank Promotions have taken over boxing.
Top Rank has Manny Pacquaio who is a cash cow that is active and fights twice a year.
Now they got Showtime/CBS on board promoting fights on CBS.
Bob is using Pacquaio as bait to get other fighters to leave their promoters.
(Mosley,Marquez)
And in the future look for Bradley to join Top Rank with the promise of a fight with the cash cow.
Goldenboy better get new contracts on Ortiz,Maidana,Khan,Alvarez because the shark Bob Arum is on the prowl LOL.
GoldenBoy can no longer promise fighters a shot at Mayweather because the guy is semi retired and not active.
The only fighters who Mayweather can fight that would generate big PPV numbers are all signed to Top Rank.(Pacquaio,Cotto,Margarito)
Bob has Mayweather on the outside looking in.
Goldenboy can only offer Khan,Ortiz,Alvarez,Maidana,and maybe Morales to Mayweather.
With the exception of Morales, the other fighters don't generate alot of money or PPv's.(who wants to see mayweather vs morales?)
You hear bob Arum say things like Martinez is off of Pacquiao's radar.
If Bob Arum can somehow get Martinez to come to Top Rank, thats when he will be on Pacquaio's radar.(Mosley,Marquez were not on the radar either until they signed with top rank)
So basicly Bob and Top Rank are putting Mayweather and goldenboy out of business along with other promoters.
You better believe that HBO is gonna throw more money into the khan/bradley pot.
That will be their biggest fight of the year.
No Mayweather + No pacquaio =No big events for HBO, and Goldenboy............Sad
No Pacquaio + No Cotto + No Margarito = No big money guarantees for Mayweather.............Sad
Thats all bad news FOR BOXING!!!...Arum running the show will kill boxing for sure. Can u imagine Pac vs dead boxers on showtime, which airs the fake version of 24/7 known as 360???:crucified
Bob is smart. He knows that Richard schaefer, and HBO are gonna kiss his ass because they need him now.
After that meeting with Richard, I bet Bob laughed all the way back to his office in Las Vegas.
cry me a river dude.
business is business
boxing is business.
he should be in Utah now getting it checked
from what I gather it's not double vision but blurred vision
Eaner, I hate Margarito to death, but I wish he gets his eye well.
WTF with Garcia letting him get that beat down?? All that macho **** was necessary????/ :grumpy:
Arum says a lot of things.
He also said recently he will never forgive or work with GBP for saying Manny was on steroids.
The fued is real, and you can bet your ass if Arum and Top Rank are on the rise they will not work with GB, if their is no reason to.
Golden Boy still has a lot of fighters, and they still make quite a bit of cash. No doubt Pacquiao dwarfs them all, but they guys is 33, he looks a little slower already, he ain't going to be boxing for much longer. What does Top Rank do then? Without Pac, they are REALLY weak.
And Bradley is a non-entity. The guy is small-time and even a fight with Pac won't change that. Him going to Top Rank doesn't mean much.
And even Pacquiao may be huge. But even after a HUGE and unprecedented promotional push by CBS, the Pac - Mosley fight sold LESS than Mayweather - Mosley. I kind of see Pac fading now, his relevance is only going to decrease from here on out.
you are crazy, the money spent by gb on promoting floyd vs mosley was the biggest in the history of boxing, they had adverts everywhere, even here in the uk which was amazing, they promoted it huge and expected 3 million ppv buys, mosley was also hyped up more, his stock was high despite him coming off a 18 month lay off
if mosley was coming off a huge win vs pac then it would have done more than 1.4m buys
pacman is killing golden boy, he is the biggest draw in boxing now since floyd is retired, everything top rank do is high class, gb have 0 boxers which can generate more than 300k buys in the ppv market now that floyd is done
that's the fight they want
good to know. that's the one i want to see before he (and cotto) retires.
keep us up to date on nonito too.
i'm hoping gbp and top rank can work something out on him.
i want to see nonito vs. arce.
nonito will probably be way too much but i'm gonna root hard for arce in that one if it happens.
if he does fight one more......gonna be cotto rematch right?
that's the most meaningful and lucrative fight available for both of them.
that's the fight they want
I can see some sort of agreement between GBP and Bob Arum..I am glad that Golden Boy took the high road on this fight to be honest. I want to see JMM vs.Pacman 3 just to settle it once and for all. I think its what was best for JMM at this point in his career and it would've sucked if GBP made him fight some other fighter that JMM marquez wasn't interested in, just to keep his contract. Pacquiao is definitely the big fish right now, but I dont see him hanging around for too long either especially if the Mayweather fight never happens. I agree hopefully this will mean there will be some better fights between Top Rank fighters vs GBP..at the end of the day I think GBP is doing more for the sport than Bob Arum is...
Hight Road?
Goldenboy couldn't match even if they wanted to.
They were forced
I can see some sort of agreement between GBP and Bob Arum..I am glad that Golden Boy took the high road on this fight to be honest. I want to see JMM vs.Pacman 3 just to settle it once and for all. I think its what was best for JMM at this point in his career and it would've sucked if GBP made him fight some other fighter that JMM marquez wasn't interested in, just to keep his contract. Pacquiao is definitely the big fish right now, but I dont see him hanging around for too long either especially if the Mayweather fight never happens. I agree hopefully this will mean there will be some better fights between Top Rank fighters vs GBP..at the end of the day I think GBP is doing more for the sport than Bob Arum is...
Your such an annoying erratic poster. Didn't you just say you were going to leave to MMA?
That was a joke you idiot.
If I annoy you then get the **** out.
**** you annoy me to with all the crap you post.
Martinez NEEDS to go to Top Rank. He needs Top Rank's expertise in marketing their fighters well, and it's about time Martinez gets more public recognition. He's not getting any younger.
what should it matter when you know it won't be against Mayweather which is what you used as an argument to doom Golden Boy?
Mayweather will not fight Margarito period
eliminate him from your list
I said Pacquaio,Cotto, and Margarito will never fight Mayweather because of Bob.
I eliminated all three fighters.
he should be in Utah now getting it checked
from what I gather it's not double vision but blurred vision
if he does fight one more......gonna be cotto rematch right?
that's the most meaningful and lucrative fight available for both of them.
so far bob has given to the bs fights to showtime. just like passing the trash on to them.
mayorga-cotto as a ppv was a joke. only the mugs at showtime would accept and be chuffed about it.
mayorga-cotto was to get showtime ppv ready to handle pacquiao-mosley.
showtime hadn't run a ppv event since when? tyson?
when hbo turned down cotto-martirosyan , mayorga became arum's backup fight for cotto.
he could have just done it on top rank ppv but they did it on showtime as kind of a dry run since showtime was gonna handle pacquiao-mosley a few months later.