Just sitting at work thinking about Floyd Mayweather and his precious '0' and it got me wondering about Sugar Shane.
Lets say Shane had retired after his first fight with Oscar (due to injury or he decided he'd had enough) then I imagine he would go down as one of the greatest fighters ever... no? His record at lightweight was pretty phenomenal, he was unbeaten and looked every bit as good as past greats like SSR and SRL. The press were lording him as untouchable and at that time it would have been hard to disagree...
Now obviously he fought Vernon, Winky (bigger men) etc and lost his unbeaten record - these days he is being beaten quite hansomly by the elite fighters like pac and mayweather but is still competitive against B+ level fighters.
I guess my main point is its funny how things can change around and how our perspective of fighters can change over time.... I just hope people dont forget how great SSM was at his peak and how he always tried to deliver the most exciting fights for the fans
Just sitting at work thinking about Floyd Mayweather and his precious '0' and it got me wondering about Sugar Shane.
Lets say Shane had retired after his first fight with Oscar (due to injury or he decided he'd had enough) then I imagine he would go down as one of the greatest fighters ever... no? His record at lightweight was pretty phenomenal, he was unbeaten and looked every bit as good as past greats like SSR and SRL. The press were lording him as untouchable and at that time it would have been hard to disagree...
Now obviously he fought Vernon, Winky (bigger men) etc and lost his unbeaten record - these days he is being beaten quite hansomly by the elite fighters like pac and mayweather but is still competitive against B+ level fighters.
I guess my main point is its funny how things can change around and how our perspective of fighters can change over time.... I just hope people dont forget how great SSM was at his peak and how he always tried to deliver the most exciting fights for the fans
GREAT post my man!!! :fing02:...green!!
Mosley gets passes cause he is a supposed good guy. The juice actually messed Mosley career up because once he got on it he thought he could just knockout everyone. Mosley never regained his fighting style from his 135 days once he moved up and got on the juice.
I guess my main point is its funny how things can change around and how our perspective of fighters can change over time....
The world is round and it can tilt anytime againts you.
Pacquiao will eventually go down to the sewer too.....everyone!!
Nothing is forever.
Pacquiao is smarter than Mosley. I'd expect Pacquiao to hang the gloves once defeated. Can't see him doing a Mosley or Roy Jones, he don't need the money either, which is a big difference.
I guess my main point is its funny how things can change around and how our perspective of fighters can change over time....
The world is round and it can tilt anytime againts you.
Pacquiao will eventually go down to the sewer too.....everyone!!
Nothing is forever.
I just wished he'd have gone out on his sword against pac, go down swinging you know, i knew he was shot but bought into the hype. Id still liek to see him and Andre Berto fight
A fighter cannot ruin his/her legacy once they have accomplished greatness.
I never understood that ridiculous statement people say "He ruined his legacy" that's BS.
It's like saying Leonardo Davinci ruined his legacy because he painted something that wasn't as good as the Mona Lisa.
Once you have your masterpiece, nobody can take that away from you. Mosley is a HOF fighter and one of the greatest at that weight.
this^^^^^^^^^:fing02:
i'm not a massive fan of Naazim at all but I think it would have been difficult for any trainer trying to emulate the relationship Shane had with his father, Jack.
I will always have 100x more respect for Mosley than Floyd. Mosley is well spoken, honorable and smart. He also had the balls to get into the ring with the best fighters on the planet, he didnt cry about ANYTHING. His only downfall was having Naazim for a coach. Naazim is a great guy to teach amateurs/kids how to fight and take them to the olympics but he just isnt that great of a coach/trainer for the big times. I think Mosleys heart let him down since he didnt wanna kick Naazim "Ducks are like trees" Metaphor Richardson
A fighter cannot ruin his/her legacy once they have accomplished greatness.
I never understood that ridiculous statement people say "He ruined his legacy" that's BS.
It's like saying Leonardo Davinci ruined his legacy because he painted something that wasn't as good as the Mona Lisa.
Once you have your masterpiece, nobody can take that away from you. Mosley is a HOF fighter and one of the greatest at that weight.
Agreed same with Jones
A fighter cannot ruin his/her legacy once they have accomplished greatness.
I never understood that ridiculous statement people say "He ruined his legacy" that's BS.
It's like saying Leonardo Davinci ruined his legacy because he painted something that wasn't as good as the Mona Lisa.
Once you have your masterpiece, nobody can take that away from you. Mosley is a HOF fighter and one of the greatest at that weight.