how does shane getting beat and not fighting for 12 rounds expose manny??

One thing i give Nazim credit for and Shane executing was the circle left strategy. Pac had no answer for that type of movement. Thus a blueprint for other boxers. 1. it didn't stop Pac from knocking shane down in the 3rd. 2. people forget that Pac was fighting with practically one leg at that fight. those who assume that he didn't do so at their own risk. when i mean risk is they take a chance of underestimating Pac. and when you do that, its lights out for you (meaning the one facing Pac of course)

One thing i give Nazim credit for and Shane executing was the circle left strategy. Pac had no answer for that type of movement. Thus a blueprint for other boxers.

I mean, I get that maybe you don't prepare for that, but you also don't go into the ring with a script. The best fighters adjust. That's why I love JMM so much because he does a fantastic job of adjusting to the guy he is fighting to exploit his flaws or tactics.

Yeah wrong on everything you said here. None of what you said applies to Mosely in any way shape or form especially since everytime mosely attempted to counter he got whacked! Hmm wrong, oh really Pacquiao couldnt cut Mosley off in the ring=Check Pac got easily frustrated when he couldnt land then got wild=Check Mosley's Jab kept Pac at bay=Check Only thing Mosley didnt do was counter. Yeah we could say he could of been countered back by Pac but also we know for a fact that in Mosley's last 2 fights he couldnt pull the trigger after 3 rounds. Do me a favor and think next time.

again, larry. CONTEXT. all hes saying is that he exposed that manny cant deal with movement...nothing else yeah but dont you know that if you even critique Pacquiao or Mayweather's style, skills, habits, anything that you automatically hate them, claim they'd lose to the other, and are actually a steroid user or coward? Seriously people, you can say Mosley ran but he was still stuck in a ring, he's not Kermit who utilizes the entire arena to escape. When you move forward and your opponent moves back you should be able to close the gap and engage, period. It's a flaw in Manny's game, but nobody's perfect so it's to be expected. Just because you win every round doesn't mean you fought a perfect fight, until someone wins every round, lands every punch, AND doesn't get hit once then there's room for improvement. And when that happens, come find me hahahaha. If that's Pac's biggest flaw then shyt he's not doin too bad for himself right?

This thread easily shows who are the people who watch fights "just" to be entertained and those who watch to be entertained and to dissect and analyze a fight. For one, if you only watched the fight one time then your opinion is useless especially if you only watched the fight when it aired because you can't analyze a full fight from watching it one time. You must watch it multiple times to find flaws and bad habits. Now im not going to go deep into this as most already covered the major problem Pacquaio had with Mosley. Yes, Pacquiao punch output drops with mobile fighters. He does not know how to cut the ring off and I didnt need to watch the Mosley fight to figure that out. You could tell in the Cotto fight when Cotto tried to box him. Pacquiao looked bored cause he couldnt hit him and thats the perfect time to capitalize on Pac. He gets wild when he gets frustrated when he cant hit you. Those are the times where you counter him. Jab at the most, but move till he gets annoyed and frustrated then pick off shots and move. I dont buy that whole leg crap, just an excuse fighters use when they look bad, ex; his socks, or shoes. But dont get me wrong even with this gameplan, Pac still has fast counters of his own and can drop and hurt whoever at any given time. Thats why it is very important to lead jabs in his face and when he comes in just move to the side and repeat until he gets annoyed and wants to go for the kill then counter. Yeah wrong on everything you said here. None of what you said applies to Mosely in any way shape or form especially since everytime mosely attempted to counter he got whacked!

even though manny probably won every round there were still many rounds in the fight the were close, manny won rounds on bein the more active fighter thats it but another thing that the shane fight showed is that you can make manny fight your fight where as someone like floyd can make you fight how he wants you to fight LOL! According to this guy rounds are close when a fighter goes into full retreat and doesn't throw punches. Sorry the first round was the only round in the whole fight that was close. As soon as Shane went down he went into "run the fuk aways from this guy" mode and spent the rest of the fight pawing with meaningless jabs.

This thread easily shows who are the people who watch fights "just" to be entertained and those who watch to be entertained and to dissect and analyze a fight. For one, if you only watched the fight one time then your opinion is useless especially if you only watched the fight when it aired because you can't analyze a full fight from watching it one time. You must watch it multiple times to find flaws and bad habits. Now im not going to go deep into this as most already covered the major problem Pacquaio had with Mosley. Yes, Pacquiao punch output drops with mobile fighters. He does not know how to cut the ring off and I didnt need to watch the Mosley fight to figure that out. You could tell in the Cotto fight when Cotto tried to box him. Pacquiao looked bored cause he couldnt hit him and thats the perfect time to capitalize on Pac. He gets wild when he gets frustrated when he cant hit you. Those are the times where you counter him. Jab at the most, but move till he gets annoyed and frustrated then pick off shots and move. I dont buy that whole leg crap, just an excuse fighters use when they look bad, ex; his socks, or shoes. But dont get me wrong even with this gameplan, Pac still has fast counters of his own and can drop and hurt whoever at any given time. Thats why it is very important to lead jabs in his face and when he comes in just move to the side and repeat until he gets annoyed and wants to go for the kill then counter.

if this fight exposed manny , god damn , then he's on a different level , the bar has been raised , i dont think theres any boxer that got exposed by winning a shut out ^^ Truth .. to bad Flomos dont have this logic...

how does that even remotly make sense?? You'll find hundreds of threads on Pac that come out with as stupid a comments as this comment. This is a silly remark but there are worse comments than this. With this comment you kind of understand what they are trying to say, but its words for effect to belittle Pac. A more apt title would be " Pac was shown to not be able to punch his opponents like they are punch bags for 12 rounds, and dont need referee rescuing you from further punishment, if you use the right survival tactics. SSM have proven it and show Floyd the way"

how does that even remotly make sense?? lol larry i thought you weren't going to feed into this stuff? manny's performances as i look back at them have been become less and less impressive for one, he's starting to fight no hopers marquez has his number, but he's no WW shane mosley is a shadow of what he used to be likewise with margarito, who was still a sitting duck for hand speed in his prime josh clottey didn't show up to fight cotto is shot. he was game for four rounds until he got hit and hurt. in his prime that never happened. evidence aplenty that he's gone he's looked good enough in these fights to remain the best fighter on the planet in my eyes but it appears that he's losing at least a bit of his mental and physical edge for one, he's now a congressman any way you want to slice it that's going to detract from your commitment to boxing to some degree it has to two, and he's gone on the record saying this, he's satisfied with his legacy he doesn't seem believe that he needs to be boxing or setting new standards (similar to his largely unprecedented rise in weight,) like taking on tougher opponents in short he's not as hungry as he used to be he's visibly lacking, at least to my eyes, in his old killer instincts to finish a man and defend himself, the true mark of a great fighter. when hit he fights back hard as always, but it's not with the same intent to destroy young, prime pacquiao loved to fight you could see it in his eyes he still loves to make people happy, but i'm confident that at least a part of the beast that made him so much greater than other physically gifted fighters is gone all of this isn't set in stone of course. he's had a run of opponents that would make most fighters drool, but for the planet's greatest fighter they have been mediocre at best. maybe he'll snap to attention in camp the second he has a live body in front of him or even more likely, the second he gets rocked again and bangs his gloves together and then over his head nothing would make me happier than being wrong if it meant manny's best days are in front of him but i seriously doubt it

Anyone saying Pac got exposed is delusional. I could understand if people said they saw many openings in Manny's defense because I sure did. But to imply that he got exposed is simply ridiculous. He was wide open at times because he was letting his hands go as he had no respect for Mosley after round 3. Also take into account that Shane wasn't throwing because he was scared. Shane wanted to survive and had no interest in fighting. How is this getting exposed??? He made the bigger man look like the little kid. It was like watching an 8th grader (Pac) fighting a tall *ss 6th grader (Shane)

A shot oldman that normally goes tow-to-toe with bellow average defense was able to defend himself against the best offensive boxer in the business. Whether Mosley was on a bicycle or not, that old man should have been KTFO, its the only reason he was in the ring against Manny. You can believe the leg cramps, car accident, over-trained, dehydrated stories all you want, Manny had trouble with an poorly defensive old man who simply moved his legs alot more than the statues he is used to facing. Very well said....:boxing:

if this fight exposed manny , god damn , then he's on a different level , the bar has been raised , i dont think theres any boxer that got exposed by winning a shut out Kinda how seeing Floyd "finally" get hit clean against Shane means he'll get knocked out against Pac? Talk about the bar being raised high....

Nobody could have predicted that Mosley would be submissive. Most people expect Mosley to lose but not running scared. I agree about Arum. Boxing fans could care less about the travesty. But Arum is a businessman. After the 2nd round Shane didn't make an aggressive move the rest of the night against Mayweather. Why were you confused by the guy you saw in there with Pac?

C'Mon bro...Pacquaio took it easy on Mosley I don't know man. The whole fight mantra for this facade of a fight was "being the first to knock him out" and "do something better than Floyd". Now you're telling me, on fight night Pac just decided to throw his bargaining chip down the drain just because Shane tapped his gloves?

that Arum and whoever cherrypicks Manny's opponents KNEW Shane was shot and couldn't pull the trigger so thats why he got the fight....and instead of the Pac fans feeling raped for dam near $100 by Arum and his goons....they bash the shot 40 yr old warrior whose way past his expiration date....smh Nobody could have predicted that Mosley would be submissive. Most people expect Mosley to lose but not running scared. I agree about Arum. Boxing fans could care less about the travesty. But Arum is a businessman.

Pacquiao threw 727 punches against Mosley. Pacquiao threw 694 punches against Barrera 2. Both if these guys put their track shoes and survived. The only difference was Barrera threw more punches 578 and Mosley 330. barrera didn't run if anything he did more like clottey did where he just blocked alot but also like the clottey fight barrera landed the cleaner punches he like clottey just didn't punch thaty much.if any one of manny opponents was runnin it was miguel in the 2nd half of the fight

but mosley neither counterpunched nor pulled the trigger... so what exactly was exposed... when mosley lost every round??? that Arum and whoever cherrypicks Manny's opponents KNEW Shane was shot and couldn't pull the trigger so thats why he got the fight....and instead of the Pac fans feeling raped for dam near $100 by Arum and his goons....they bash the shot 40 yr old warrior whose way past his expiration date....smh

that fight did show he had issues with movement just like the cotto fight did..and i hope it proved to some idiots he CANT throw 1000 punches against a fighter who moves....but he wasnt exposed imo Pacquiao threw 727 punches against Mosley. Pacquiao threw 694 punches against Barrera 2. Both if these guys put their track shoes and survived. The only difference was Barrera threw more punches 578 and Mosley 330.