Lets come together in support of one another by taking a no drug stand. All this b.s about a drug test being a hold up for major fights that we want to see needs to come to an end. There is no way a drug test should be the cause of a fight not to take place. How can we get a petition started today to get the commission to change its rules & regulations?
I love all of your entusiasm to do good for the sport but you must know that boxing is not set up in a democratic fashion. Just saying..............Rockin':boxing:
At the very least, it will let the powers that be know that real boxing fans feel strongly about a subject they want to brush to the side.
That's good enough for me.:boxing:
you can petition all that you want. The commisions have all power essentially, I would conider it like a dictatorship. The government rarely steps into boxings business or any other sports business for that matter. There have been exceptions through the years such as The Muhammad Ali Act and the I.B.C investigations. I just don't see on site testing being any concern of the government at all.............Rockin':boxing:
and you are probably right but we need to have a voice as fans
if the fans are wanting it then essentially we have to power because we are the ones that purchase the tickets to sit at the arena and watch the fight
we are the ones that order it live on PPV so if you think about it
without us there is no them!
you have to be strong!
Doubt the reporters will want to touch it, it's basically calling the sport dirty if they bring attention to it.
Yeah, it's a tightrope walk because on the one hand you want to say it's not an issue yet to protect the game, but on the other if it's not an issue than why bother? That said, I'm serious about doing this but I need to sit down and do my homework to figure out the best route and strategy for this.
I'd also ask anybody who would like to play an active role in this, such as researching (especially if good at it) to PM me.
If we can come up with a petition and get some serious signatures on it
at the very least it will make noise and get the attention of the media and then once we do that we will have a voice and a platform and maybe get something done about it
its going to be a slow process but lets try and get it done!
We need to put some pressure on these athletic commissions. They charge sanctioning fees but arent for better testing?
Im in!
Doubt the reporters will want to touch it, it's basically calling the sport dirty if they bring attention to it.
Probably not, but we live in the age of twitter, if it can bring down governments it might be up to the challenge of getting some better testing in a combat sport.
I'm down.:boxing:
It's definitely worth a go, I'd sign it. Use twitter to get writers like Iole and Rafael to promote it, even see if you could get Mayweather, Ward and Pascal to tweet about it for a bit of promotion and link it on forums on other boxing sites.
Doubt the reporters will want to touch it, it's basically calling the sport dirty if they bring attention to it.
It's definitely worth a go, I'd sign it. Use twitter to get writers like Iole and Rafael to promote it, even see if you could get Mayweather, Ward and Pascal to tweet about it for a bit of promotion and link it on forums on other boxing sites.
They can't afford to do it in small fights because they don't make enough money. Like with most changes in sports you start off at the top (championship fights) and work down when it becomes more affordable. If you think any sport would waste money on testing a fighter that isn't even making any money for fighting you're a moron.
yeah, for it to make financial sense, it would probably have to start with title & title elimination bouts.
It needs to improve regardless, not as if there isn't enough money being made by all involved in boxing, if a portion of that money went to testing it would probably cover it.
Grimes you are walking contradiction.
The commission should do an all across OST (Olympic Style Test) for performance enhancing drug and human growth hormone just like how they do an all across drug testing for all the fighters big fights and small fights. Why should championship levels and mega-fights get OST treatment but not the regular fights? It is like saying the NFL, NBA, and MLB are just going to do drug testing during the playoffs and championship games but not during the regular season. Sh1t sounds retarded and that is what you are saying. Mark McGuire and the other baseball players got caught doing steroids during regular season play. So, yea it should be across the board OST treatment for all boxers.
They can't afford to do it in small fights because they don't make enough money. Like with most changes in sports you start off at the top (championship fights) and work down when it becomes more affordable. If you think any sport would waste money on testing a fighter that isn't even making any money for fighting you're a moron.
I agree and I have talked to countless people in the sport about it. But in boxing, it's all about money. Once the commissions begin losing money over what they are (or are not) doing, you'll see change.
That's not going far enough. In LIFE it's all about money. I love to fight though, whether it's in a ring, a courtroom, or anywhere else. In this case the goal (OST) is different than the expectation (status quo) but once you overcome the collective action problem your odds increase greatly
Lol and pistol_whip I don't associate "Floyd Mayweather Jr." and "petition" in my brain. In fact, not sure I can even process that!
Just a question but shouldn't the retarded full of shhiitt boxer who torpedoed the biggest fight in boxing be the one petitioning the commissions?
It makes sense since I don't know 99% of the people who are responding to this post never gave a crap about OSDT tell a certin fighter flapped his gums.
Then we go get them. I've had 10 minutes to think this over, but given time I'm sure I could devise a plan and implement it. Plus, I have some good connections to possibly get this thing off its feet. It may take a while but even if I didn't get this done now I have a year and a half off before law school to mobilize. We get a plan, we get the research, flip the right people and you never know what can happen.
I agree and I have talked to countless people in the sport about it. But in boxing, it's all about money. Once the commissions begin losing money over what they are (or are not) doing, you'll see change.
What I said applies to every commission. The only way this gets done is if the fighters with power do it. Period. Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson did it when there was no testing at ALL. And guess what...even after they did it, it took the commissions six years to finally implement it. And a lot of them still don't today.
Then we go get them. I've had 10 minutes to think this over, but given time I'm sure I could devise a plan and implement it. Plus, I have some good connections to possibly get this thing off its feet. It may take a while but even if I didn't get this done now I have a year and a half off before law school to mobilize. We get a plan, we get the research, flip the right people and you never know what can happen.
Well you don't just petition the Nevada Athletic Commission, you petition every commission in the U.S. for starters. If they bring a fight to Europe then at that point you've done something substantial enough have the means to go public and gain int'l support.
What I said applies to every commission. The only way this gets done is if the fighters with power do it. Period. Evander Holyfield and Mike Tyson did it when there was no testing at ALL. And guess what...even after they did it, it took the commissions six years to finally implement it. And a lot of them still don't today.
I'd be willing to organize this myself during the summer, I believe in it and it'd look great for law school right?
My strategy would probably go as follows. I'd first go with a petition. I'd petition on the grounds that (and I would find statistics to support our cause) the steroid scandal in baseball has hurt the sport and point out that boxing is no exception. Further, boxing is in no state to handle a steroid scandal, especially not on the level that baseball has. Some of the biggest stars in baseball tested positive, and boxing cannot afford to have the same happen. The short term costs are greater, but the long term security is worth the investment.
As for the petition itself, I would not only try to circulate it amongst baseball players but I'd circulate it to former boxers, starting with Ali. Further, I'd forward the petition to the Congressmen who handled the baseball hearings. Quantity of signees is important. Quality trumps all.
Equally important would be to have a petition where signees include their email addresses. This is because if a petition does not work then we initiate phase 2: emailing drive.
We could start a site, or perhaps even host it here, just like single-issue organizations do for email drives. The email is pre-written, with all the person has to do being insert their info and hitting send. With the list of emails provided from the petition we could send an email alerting each and every signee of the emailing drive, maximizing both efficiency and output. Blowing up their email would become bothersome and, hopefully, show the continued support for the cause.
I'm down to organize this thing, I think I could pull it off with your help too
I'm behind you man. Let's get it done.
Why would the commissions ever do that?
The former head of the NSAC said if they tried to, people would take their fights elsewhere. She said that in 2007.
Fast forward.
Manny fights in Dallas until the NSAC forgets about it.
There you have it.
Well you don't just petition the Nevada Athletic Commission, you petition every commission in the U.S. for starters. If they bring a fight to Europe then at that point you've done something substantial enough have the means to go public and gain int'l support.
Why would the commissions ever do that?
The former head of the NSAC said if they tried to, people would take their fights elsewhere. She said that in 2007.
Fast forward.
Manny fights in Dallas until the NSAC forgets about it.
There you have it.