After Watching Ward How Can Anyone Say He Should Be Above Wlad P4P

Pacquiao has a certain height and weight relative to welterweight. If you could make a Pacquaio that had the same height and weight relative to heavyweight, with the same skills, he would tool the Klitschkos. If you could make a Klitschko with the same height and weight relative to welterweight, with the same skills, he would get tooled by Pacquiao.

in a p4p fight against pac they would be brutalized. You might be even more retarded than the other guy with his 'size' argument. What is this hypothetical P4P match between Klitschko and Pac you're talking about where Klitschko would be brutalized by a 140 lb man???? Are you seriously this stupid? You realize P4P stuff really boils down to simply a subjective list? Klitschko's brutalized by Pac in some crazy hypothetical world where they're not really who they are but instead where only 'skills' matter? In that case...Ivan Calderon a years ago was P4P the best in the history!!!!!!! Coz no1 would've been able to compete with his quickness and skills if they were all 100 lbs right? Amirite?

P1ss of maggot, im pointing out that the main reason Klitchko wins is his size advantage not any other attribute like skill. And Haye is knocking his ass out regardless u fukking Ring Worm now keep ur lip in check and fukk off lol k. Nice logical response. Really. Just regurgitate the same misguided stupidity. I bow to your logic.

Because it's a mythical opinion based ranking. Is make believe, you can have your list anyway you want I personally have Wlad @ #5 on my list ahead of Ward. But, you can make that list anyway you want, it doesn't really matter.

LOL Ward can string together fluid multipunch combinations. The Klits think a jab-right hand is the height of combination punching. Sometimes they'll even get creative and follow that up with a left hook. :lol1:

Your stupidity boggles the mind. Nice argument there. If Haye were bigger he'd win!!! How about this...If Pacquaio suddenly grew a foot and packed on 100 lbs while retaining how he fights....he'd DESTROY Wlad. No contest!!!! No but seriously. Just stfu and think before you post. P1ss of maggot, im pointing out that the main reason Klitchko wins is his size advantage not any other attribute like skill. And Haye is knocking his ass out regardless u fukking Ring Worm now keep ur lip in check and fukk off

I am always amazed at people who posit this "the Klitschkos only win because of their size" argument. Funny, back when he was initially fighting George Foreman was considered to be a very big man, and I never heard that said about him. I didn't hear it said much about Lennox Lewis, who is the same size as the K-Bros, either. But when it's two Eastern Europeans whose names sound Russian, suddenly they "only win because of their size." This argument just doesn't hold up to any rational scrutiny. Yet it keeps being regurgitated regularly by those who feel the Klitschkos' achievements must be belittled, no matter what. in a p4p fight against pac they would be brutalized.

Wlad imho is a decent fighter, great power, good jab and not bad speed but to me he cant be a p4p guy because im of the opinion he only wins most of his fights due to his size advantages, if say David Haye was 6'7 with a frame like Wlad there would be no debate who would win, Haye would be an over whelming favourite Your stupidity boggles the mind. Nice argument there. If Haye were bigger he'd win!!! How about this...If Pacquaio suddenly grew a foot and packed on 100 lbs while retaining how he fights....he'd DESTROY Wlad. No contest!!!! No but seriously. Just stfu and think before you post.

wlad shouldn't be in the p4p, he'd get owned p4p ding ding ding we have a winner. this easily^^^^^

wlad shouldn't be in the p4p, he'd get owned p4p

I completely agree with your post. I like Wlad, I think he's a good HW taht actually has fought with all the boxers that have challenged him. He's not extremely talented, but has a very educated jab, he hits hard as hell, and he knows how to take advantage of his qualities. Wlad wins most of his fights because his fight advantage? Man they are boxers, they should take advantage of their strenghts. A fighter who sucks in the close distance will try to get more distance from his opponent. A fighter who is small, with good punching power will try to close the distant to the opponent and hit him with good body shots. For me the difference between Wlad and Ward is first that Wlad has a lot of punching power, he's able to KO opponents. The other difference, is that for me Ward is a dirtier fighter fighter, he goes forward with his head and his while they are hugging. Ward has more technical talent than Wlad, but he doesn't use is as he could.

Wlad imho is a decent fighter, great power, good jab and not bad speed but to me he cant be a p4p guy because im of the opinion he only wins most of his fights due to his size advantages, if say David Haye was 6'7 with a frame like Wlad there would be no debate who would win, Haye would be an over whelming favourite

But but but but, Wlad is white. If Wlad and Vitali were black americans the Yankees would be like OMG THEY ARE #1 ATG!