Why do people think Andre Ward is "boring"

andre ward is not boring when he doesn't clinch. fixed your mistake

andre ward is not boring.

It has nothing to do with KNOWING MORE THEN THE NEXT FAN, but I do find Casual Fans to be THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL! They want to get into these debates about boxing then when your call them out on their BS they get emotional and upset lol I just have respect for what these guys do and the HARD WORK THEY PUT IN and the Training they put their body through and for a HALFA$$ fan to come and just totally disrespect them to me is a DISGRACE TO THE SPORT OF BOXING sure it is fighters I am not a fan of but I wouldn't make 3-4 threads about them everyday trying to bash them it is so easy for fans to have all these DEMANDS and try to tell fighters what they should or shouldn't do when they are watching on TV while the fighters are actually the one in the RING GETTING HIT! I have more respect for fans who are HONEST and they come humble and respectful and say "I am just starting to get into the boxing because of Pacquiao or Mayweather so I am still learning the SWEET SCIENCE" compared to the Idiot who comes to these Forums and just attack every other fighters (besides their favorite fight) and just complains OVER AND OVER about the way certain fighters fight you made it seem like it was about "knowing" boxing. It's easy for the fans to demand because it's OUR money that we're investing in watching the fights. True, boxers are the one's in the ring and it's THEIR careers but then they complain about why they aren't getting the big money fights/attention that they think they deserve. and what's all this talk about PBF-PAC? no one's even mentioned their names besides you. This is about Andre Ward and how he may or may not be boring.

He has to be one of the most well rounded fighters today. Very good technically, versatile, and can fight both on the inside and outside. His fights with Green and Bika were pretty ugly but it's not like he always fights ugly. He has showed some very impressive performances in his other fights (Kessler for example). I don't find him boring at all. ward's last performance against AA was better... but i hate all that holding and hitting he does

because he usually is no one saying Ward not A class just a lot of clinching and awkwardness in his fights

lol look at this guy all butthurt. :spank: never understood why "real" boxing fans get mad at casual fans (which im more than) with their elitist mentality. "i know all the intricacies of the sweet science and appreciate a skilled boxing match." and if you dont appreciate defense you're not a real fan. too bad boxing wouldnt be on TV without "fake" boxing fans'/casual fans' money. You'd think people would want others to appreciate or just even keep up with the sport. SMH. It has nothing to do with KNOWING MORE THEN THE NEXT FAN, but I do find Casual Fans to be THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL! They want to get into these debates about boxing then when your call them out on their BS they get emotional and upset lol I just have respect for what these guys do and the HARD WORK THEY PUT IN and the Training they put their body through and for a HALFA$$ fan to come and just totally disrespect them to me is a DISGRACE TO THE SPORT OF BOXING sure it is fighters I am not a fan of but I wouldn't make 3-4 threads about them everyday trying to bash them it is so easy for fans to have all these DEMANDS and try to tell fighters what they should or shouldn't do when they are watching on TV while the fighters are actually the one in the RING GETTING HIT! I have more respect for fans who are HONEST and they come humble and respectful and say "I am just starting to get into the boxing because of Pacquiao or Mayweather so I am still learning the SWEET SCIENCE" compared to the Idiot who comes to these Forums and just attack every other fighters (besides their favorite fight) and just complains OVER AND OVER about the way certain fighters fight

You say that because your probably not a TRUE BOXING FAN hahaha most of you don't even know the difference between a damn Upper Cut and a Hook :no: but yet you get on this Boxing Forums and try to PRETEND like your a Boxing fans when in actuality your JUST A PACQUIAO FAN who signed up to this Forum to Brag About Pacquiao or you signed up to this Forum just to BASH MAYWEATHER Of Course your going to complain when you don't understand WTF your watching, Brawling is BASIC so it appeals more to the Simple/Casual Boxing Fans, it is very easy to Understand: GO OUT, Throw Power Punches Until Somebody Goes Down! lol look at this guy all butthurt. :spank: never understood why "real" boxing fans get mad at casual fans (which im more than) with their elitist mentality. "i know all the intricacies of the sweet science and appreciate a skilled boxing match." and if you dont appreciate defense you're not a real fan. too bad boxing wouldnt be on TV without "fake" boxing fans'/casual fans' money. You'd think people would want others to appreciate or just even keep up with the sport. SMH. To get back to the topic, andre ward's clinch game is what ruins it. add to the fact that Froch did a much better job at beating AA.

probably because as well rounded as ward is his last couple fights look like wrestling matches more than boxing matches.i was actually a big fan of ward and i still am a fan but his last couple fights have been ugly and most people don't like ugly fights

People need to GTFO with "they're not real boxing fans" BS. Andre Ward is a good fighter but not fan friendly. He's like the Tim Duncan of Boxing. Great at what he does but not appealing to the masses. A fan can appreciate boxing ability but still want to see KOs or fighters that let their hands go. Just because someone would rather have the latter, that doesn't make them less of a fan. like another poster said, each sport has it's "thing" that people want to see. baseball has HRs etc. etc. I think that boxers need to do a better job of finding a medium between their selfish needs and what the fans want. and they wonder why they aren't big attractions in the sport. because you're boring as fcuk. In the end, it's OUR ENTERTAINMENT and OUR MONEY. You say that because your probably not a TRUE BOXING FAN hahaha most of you don't even know the difference between a damn Upper Cut and a Hook :no: but yet you get on this Boxing Forums and try to PRETEND like your a Boxing fans when in actuality your JUST A PACQUIAO FAN who signed up to this Forum to Brag About Pacquiao or you signed up to this Forum just to BASH MAYWEATHER Of Course your going to complain when you don't understand WTF your watching, Brawling is BASIC so it appeals more to the Simple/Casual Boxing Fans, it is very easy to Understand: GO OUT, Throw Power Punches Until Somebody Goes Down!

People need to GTFO with "they're not real boxing fans" BS. Andre Ward is a good fighter but not fan friendly. He's like the Tim Duncan of Boxing. Great at what he does but not appealing to the masses. A fan can appreciate boxing ability but still want to see KOs or fighters that let their hands go. Just because someone would rather have the latter, that doesn't make them less of a fan. like another poster said, each sport has it's "thing" that people want to see. baseball has HRs etc. etc. I think that boxers need to do a better job of finding a medium between their selfish needs and what the fans want. and they wonder why they aren't big attractions in the sport. because you're boring as fcuk. In the end, it's OUR ENTERTAINMENT and OUR MONEY.

Pernell didnt have to be a KO artists to be entertaining. He could stand 6 inches from you and make you miss a 4-5 punch combo without even moving his feet! That alone is quite impressive and entertaining. CO SIGN....To much holding with ward .:boxing::boxing:

Pernell didnt have to be a KO artists to be entertaining. He could stand 6 inches from you and make you miss a 4-5 punch combo without even moving his feet! That alone is quite impressive and entertaining. I could watch Pernell fight all day long!

He's a very good boxer, but I just dont enjoy watching his fights. He is succesful, but can be dull to watch.

Pernell Whitaker is a legend and he didn't knock people out either. There has to be room in the sport for all kinds of different styles. Pernell didnt have to be a KO artists to be entertaining. He could stand 6 inches from you and make you miss a 4-5 punch combo without even moving his feet! That alone is quite impressive and entertaining.

Pernell Whitaker is a legend and he didn't knock people out either. There has to be room in the sport for all kinds of different styles.

The headbutting is more unintentional. It's just there and it happens. Ward and Hopkins are sneaky about it because they can position themselves better. I'd rather see Ward position himself better than just stand there and hold like Berto or Shane Mosley does. Well I never said it was intentional headbutting. Have you seen boxers throwing all sort of punches from all angles and then hitting the opponent below the belt accidentaly? The ref has to stop the action because it's an illegal punch, even if it's not intentional. It's actually the same with Ward, yeah he might just be trying to position himself on the inside and has no intention of headbutting the rival, but in the end he hurts the other boxer with his head, and that's illegal. As I said, Ward has some good qualities and if he tries to polish his skills he could be a great fighter. It's harder to position yourself on the inside without headbutting the opponent? Yeah, it is, but that's legal, while hurting your opponent with your head is not.

Holding and clinching is a skill, like throwing low blows is a skill. Of course they put on better fights. Froch and Johnson throw punches. Their first instinct is to actually box, not go into some sort of MMA holding tactic. That's why their fights are more exciting. Froch and Johnson have good defense, because it's genuine boxing defense. It's not foolproof like Ward's methods because they actually follow the rules. Froch constantly roughs up his opponent which is "against the rules" too. Where are you complaining about that? Froch fights out of the clinch like Ward. He doesn't hold as much as Ward, but he doesn't position himself as well either. Ward's defense is generally genuine boxing defense. He slipped, rolled, and blocked many of Abraham's punches last night.

Yeah, I get boxers who get low and go forward trying to position themselves on the inside. However, Ward goes forward like a bull, so he actually first hits the other fighter with his head, and then tries to get some punches on the inside. If someone was coming close to you with his head in front you would also clinch, because even if he doesn't manage to get some punches, his head would still hurt you. The headbutting is more unintentional. It's just there and it happens. Ward and Hopkins are sneaky about it because they can position themselves better. I'd rather see Ward position himself better than just stand there and hold like Berto or Shane Mosley does.

Because Froch and Green don't have the defensive skills of Ward. Guys with no defense put on better fights. That's why everybody loves to watch mexicans. Holding and clinching is a skill, like throwing low blows is a skill. Of course they put on better fights. Froch and Johnson throw punches. Their first instinct is to actually box, not go into some sort of MMA holding tactic. That's why their fights are more exciting. Froch and Johnson have good defense, because it's genuine boxing defense. It's not foolproof like Ward's methods because they actually follow the rules.

Maybe if he got hit more he'd be more exciting. Yeah..that makes sense.. Go out there and take punches like a donkey.. Ward doesn't bore me. Why doesn't he counter off that defense like a juan manuel marquez? The guy is boring put it any way you want but he is horrible to watch. I guess clinching is a great defense now a days