Richard Schaefer: Marquez vs Ortiz At 144

fuk bob arum and fuk top prank.... they take an L for this one.. they had a chance to fight marquez and instead went with mosley which was a huge failure!!... Yeah, 1.2-1.5 millions PPVs is a failure for sure.

Sounds like Schafer is using Marquez as a stepping stone for young in-house Gold Shower fighters. This sport is too cut-throat with all these lying, cheating, promoting bastards.

I remember Judah fought for 50k in his last fight. Now he is supposed to generate 5 mill for JMM? ha, guess i didn't even think about the money when i wrote that. either way, jmm is fucked with this GBP contract. they're proposing **** fights. what i meant was jmm should just let the contract with GBP run out by fighting judah and maidana, or even morales at 140. it'll help him move up and i'm pretty sure manny's camp will still take the fight regardless if he looks good in it or not. he can sign with top rank when the contract expires but for now, fight at 140. fighting ortiz or canelo at a catchweight at WW is a bad move.

But wait, didn't Ortiz win the welter belt? Why would He fight at 145 for pennies? I think Shaefer is blown smoke.

how come marquez or GBP do not propose a judah fight? isn't jmm looking for a 4th belt? plus it'll move him up in weight instead of trying to go from 135 to WW. marquez can fight judah and even maidana, his contract will surely expire by then. it ends in early 2012 right? I remember Judah fought for 50k in his last fight. Now he is supposed to generate 5 mill for JMM?

how come marquez or GBP do not propose a judah fight? isn't jmm looking for a 4th belt? plus it'll move him up in weight instead of trying to go from 135 to WW. marquez can fight judah and even maidana, his contract will surely expire by then. it ends in early 2012 right?

this is almost as bad as trying to boil Canelo down to 147 why is GBP interested in putting JMM as a welter? simple... cause GBP screws with TR's plans GBP gets to feed Ortiz a big name opponent Ortiz has no chance of losing I'm just wondering if HBo will pay for this mismatch. I mean GBP won't put down their own money to make this fight happen so it will all be on HBO... also, the ppv revenue won't for jmm/ortiz won't nearly be as good as the revenue jmm will get for pac/jmm... i wonder if that can be a basis for jmm to not take the fight.

Give me some Green K damit

lol ortiz is going to kill him lol this is a smart move by golden boy!!!!!... he wants a fight at 144lbs, throw him at ortiz so he could eat his ass up... in return marquez retires and ortiz gets even biggers, ****s chess not checkers fuk bob arum and fuk top prank.... they take an L for this one.. they had a chance to fight marquez and instead went with mosley which was a huge failure!!... no they're left with trying to sell a fight with an unknown alien head lol who are you referring to? Bradley or Judah, neither? anyways, if true, this is a good counter, since they have the right to match, Top Rank isn't in any position to just take Marquez away from them. Golden Boy keeps there guy and feeds him to Ortiz...which isn't that bad of a fight really (financial aspects aside) - sure Marquez is not a welter, and Ortiz might rehydrate a lot more than Pacquiao would have (not good for Marquez), but Marquez is still a very smart fighter, disciplined, not in his prime but I think he can make an entertaining fight of it. In the end or the idea for GB/HBO, Ortiz gains in popularity by defeating a HOF in Marquez.

honestly IMO this is what I would do if JMM ends up with TR offer a JMM vs Bradley fight (assuming he doesn't sign with GBP) in July with the winner to fight Manny in November. That's two big fights and a chance at 5 division titles (140 with Bradley and 147ish with Pacquiao) if he ends up back with Golden Boy offer him a shot at Maidana then a chance at Ortiz. Two not as big fights but at least is a guaranteed salary against arguably easier competition and it's still a shot at 5 division titles (Maidana at 140 and Ortiz at 147) Good matchups right there Ernie!.. you should be matchmaker forreal. These companies aren't doing too good of a job nowadays :trink26:

This fight aint gonna happen. Unless GBP and HBO doesn't care about losing money. HBO doesn't even want to give Bradley a dime more than 1.3 million to make the biggest fight possible at 140 so do you really think there gonna give $5 million to Marquez and at least $3 million for Ortiz for a fight that does less than 200k PPVS? People on here that dont know how boxing works need to stop making threads. So are you a promoter? Please tell us how the boxing game works. You don't know what goes on behind closed doors and you don't know how many PPV's Marquez vs Ortiz will sell.

This fight aint gonna happen. Unless GBP and HBO doesn't care about losing money. HBO doesn't even want to give Bradley a dime more than 1.3 million to make the biggest fight possible at 140 so do you really think there gonna give $5 million to Marquez and at least $3 million for Ortiz for a fight that does less than 200k PPVS? People on here that dont know how boxing works need to stop making threads. LMAO! Look at this one trick donkey. :lol1:

This fight aint gonna happen. Unless GBP and HBO doesn't care about losing money. HBO doesn't even want to give Bradley a dime more than 1.3 million to make the biggest fight possible at 140 so do you really think there gonna give $5 million to Marquez and at least $3 million for Ortiz for a fight that does less than 200k PPVS? People on here that dont know how boxing works need to stop making threads.

my money on marquez. skills talent heart experience is enough. even unfocused ****ing and partying all training camp berto was still in the fight wiht a focused hungry ortiz. marquez will whoop that boy.

I don't like this fight, same way I don't like the Pacquiao/Marquez fight at 144

Why would they want to feed Marquez to Ortiz? Punk ass disrespectful promoters. Marquez should either be fighting at 135 against all the new contenders he has like Rios and Guerrero, or he should be trying for that fourth belt at 140. Don't use him as a stepping stone for a guy so much bigger like Ortiz.

NO! NO NO NOOOOO! http://412.laxallstars.com/files/2011/03/dawson_crying.gif

Schaefer is caught in between a rock and a hard place because there is no options for Marquez with Goldenboy that will pay him what Top Rank is offering. It will be Pacquaio vs Marquez in Nov.

Hopefully JMM accepts the GBP deal. I wouldn't mind seeing him get beaten by Ortiz. Since JMM is easy work for Pac. I can't accept any other fight for Pac besides Mayweather.

what if they put Canelo on the undercard? That would be a pretty big mexican attraction (marquez, ortiz, canelo). Even if they break even that would be a win for them (to screw bob arum). I don't know if it's possible, just sayin. They could in theory also come out of pocket and say, pay a difference of $1-$2 million out of their own funds. Co sign!!!!!!!!!