More leftovers, Pac loves it must taste like ramen noodles, why should we believe JMM is going to do any better at welter than he did against Floyd? U guys who support this matchup, u play along with the Arum con game. Marquez is older, slower, and not nearly sharp enough to compete with Pac at this stage. Floyd has said take the test we got a fight, why cant Pac fans support that? Why keep allowing your guy to cherrypick and dodge the real megafight? Do ya'll like watching him fight the elderly and shopworn? Its pathetic, really though!
Um isnt Mayweather the best defensive boxer ever? That has to play a part
also...JMM said himself as well as Nacho that they assumed the weight wouldnt be an issue and they were confident before the fight.....it wasnt until after the fight they realized they couldnt compete at that weight....
Yep, and they were hoping to take advantage of a rusty Floyd coming off a layoff
Thats bullshyt....:lame:
It's common sense.
Marquez showed he doesn't belong at 147, that's a fact. No one deserves credit for beating him there.
I'm a Floyd Mayweather fan, huge fan. My favourite active fighter, saved my hard earned money to fly across the world to watch him fight numerous numerous times.
But there is just no justification for giving him credit for the Marquez fight.
The same goes for Manny.
They sign to fight Marquez I'm done with Pacstan, if Marquez had to go to the well vs Pac at 130, how is he suppose to compete at 145? And didnt Floyd already prove JMM cant compete at this weight?
The biggest Sham is they say its a catchweight of 145, thats what weight Pac weighs in at anyway at welter. How many are going to fall for this shamweight? 140 would be the only glimmer of this being a fair fight! And 140 may even be too big for JMM!
Because they have unfinished business, and pac is considered to be weak against so called counter punchers.
You're ok with Manny fighting another old guy looking for one last payday? Let the media hype begin....again.
Yes. Before the fight we didn't know for sure how he would fare at the weight.
But, after the fight we did.
And the fact is, Marquez doesn't belong at 147. Regardless to the fact that before the fight we didn't know this.
Therefore, no one deserves credit for beating Marquez above 140. Even the person who did it before we found out if he could fight there. Because, that fight is what showed us he couldn't.
Obviously Pac fans like mismatches, it keeps their hero safe
Yea this fight is pointless. They should fight at 140 catch if anything. I would rather see Bradley or Judah fight Miss Pacman. After Floyd whiped JMM for 12 rounds Arum said 147 is not a weight JMM should be fighting at, yet he wants the Manny fight at that weight. Even 145 is still to much for JMM to be fighting at.
exactly....there were no signs before the fight with Mayweather and all he did was do what tons of boxers have done which is move up in weight to test themselves.
It wasnt until after his initial move up in weight that people said JMM didnt look food at that weight. NOBODY knew that until after the fight.
Yes. Before the fight we didn't know for sure how he would fare at the weight.
But, after the fight we did.
And the fact is, Marquez doesn't belong at 147. Regardless to the fact that before the fight we didn't know this.
Therefore, no one deserves credit for beating Marquez above 140. Even the person who did it before we found out if he could fight there. Because, that fight is what showed us he couldn't.
so Manny and Marquez are the same size?
Wouldnt Mayweather be bigger than Pac as well?
They cant defend this, Marquez is a Floyd leftover and not a welterweight, dude is another old fighter who Team Pac knows is ripe for the taking. Guess u fight Pac as part of your retirement plan. I hope they have fun getting pimped by Arum. Floyd called JMM a tuneup, of course with Pac this will be marketed as a mega fight, lol!!
he showed he didnt belong at that weight before he fought at that weight?:pat:
how does that happen? Is that you miss cleo?
No.
But he showed it in the fight. He showed he doesn't belong at 147.
We didn't know this before the fight, but what does that matter since we found out during the fight he doesn't belong there?
No one should get credit for beating Marquez above 140.
Not Floyd, not Manny.
Because, his sole fight there showed it is abudently clear he doesn't belong there.
Title is misleading... Floyd didn't prove nothing.. We all already new Floyd was too big for Marquez yet floyd still came in bigger then what they agreed on.
Is this some sort of joke?
No, they didn't.
But what they did do was rightfully slate him for how pathetic he was for fighting a Lightweight at Welterweight.
Which is exactly what should be happening to Pacqiauo for fighting him above 140. Except for some baffling reason It's absolutely fine for Manny.
I mean, It's common f*cking sense.
ANYONE, who fights Marquez over 140 gets no credit. Why would they? He has shown he doesn't belong there.
Somebody need to tell Arum and Team Pac this
More leftovers, Pac loves it must taste like ramen noodles, why should we believe JMM is going to do any better at welter than he did against Floyd? U guys who support this matchup, u play along with the Arum con game. Marquez is older, slower, and not nearly sharp enough to compete with Pac at this stage. Floyd has said take the test we got a fight, why cant Pac fans support that? Why keep allowing your guy to cherrypick and dodge the real megafight? Do ya'll like watching him fight the elderly and shopworn? Its pathetic, really though!
1. jmm is not floyd's leftover. he is more of pac's leftover that he fed a hungry beggar in floyd.
2. damn it. why say jmm is old?
3. ask floyd to stop choking guards/bouncers. then we have a fight.
umm what about where JMM is at his best? Because apparently the WW limit turns him into a BLOWN UP LIGHTWEIGHT right?
if tards cant understanf this they're hopeless? :fing02:
I think they secretlt dont want the Mayweather fight, the inevitable Pac loss would send them on suicide watch. With Marquez they can enjoy a stress free opponent at welterweight.
did anyone ask floyd to fight him at 135 or 140???
Is this some sort of joke?
No, they didn't.
But what they did do was rightfully slate him for how pathetic he was for fighting a Lightweight at Welterweight.
Which is exactly what should be happening to Pacqiauo for fighting him above 140. Except for some baffling reason It's absolutely fine for Manny.
I mean, It's common f*cking sense.
ANYONE, who fights Marquez over 140 gets no credit. Why would they? He has shown he doesn't belong there.
This is really just ridiculous.
You mean to tell me that Floyd rightfully gets no credit at all by anyone for fighting Marquez at 147.
Yet Manny does by fighting him at 145 because 'JMM is ok with it'? What kind of idiocy is that?
No one in the world should get credit for fighting JMM over 140. And that is that.