with these bull**** opponents for the p4p no.1
if he's as good as you say he is Bob why are you protecting him?
his comments about Ortiz case in point, he's the kid cant speak spanish....he's actually fluent, but is that an excuse to not fight him?
the only way boxing gets new stars are if the existing stars fight the up and comers, why isnt Pac doing this for the good of boxing? he will get paid regardless
Bob if you care about boxing let Pac fight an Ortiz or a Berto or a Bradley or Amir Khan
Just reminds me of how huge boxing was when it was on terrestrial TV. I mean, that whole Benn/Eubank/Watson era was insane. It felt like the whole country was watching the fights. And that's not even an exaggeration.
i agree, which is why your have this generation of british fighters who are quite frankly the best we'll ever see, becuase these kids watched the fights and prince naseem etc
but, what happened to Watson was the hammer and what happened to mccellan was the nail, boxing on terrestial televison hasnt been the same since
Also in regards to this: Boxing is apparantly exploding in Mexico even moreso than before because of terrestial tv broadcasts.
and do you know which promoters origininated PPV and Cable boxing?
good riddance to both
boxing not being on terrestial television was inevitiable, no-body wants to see people potentially die in the ring, which is why it is no longer on british terrestial television after what happened to Gerald Mccellan
gamboa might go to jail
juanma is not as good as first thought
Brandon Rios is pissed cos Bob barely gets him a fight
Soto's gone
Karma
who's Bob got after Manny? No-one
Better stay away from GBP's Donaire
Yep. If you think about it, in a funny way......maybe boxing's commercial appeal isn't that bad considering that it is a sport that is so reliant on PPV and is shown on cable. (This applies to the UK too, terrestrial TV stopped showing it a long time ago)
I mean, attracting new fans and the casual audience......would YOU find it easy to get into a sport as inaccessible as boxing is? Even if we had 10 cross-over stars like Pac, the fact that boxing isn't available to the masses, that the most commercial fights are invariably PPV.......that will always hinder the sport.
Which is a shame, cos it's such an incredible, transcendent sport.
It's bad. Talk to the average sports fan.
"Some good fights this weekend you should check them out"
"oh yeah, what channel?"
"Uh, HBO/Showtime/PPV."
"yeah, I just have basic cable and I'm not gonna buy a PPV"
":sad:"
PPV and Premium Cable kill boxing. If HBO wouldn't have got Foreman-Frazier 38 years ago boxing would be huge today.
I agree with that to an extent.
Boxing is just a complete mess of a sport to follow for the masses. Its just completely fragmented and trying to put all the pieces of the puzzle together when its on PPV and Premium Cable is too much for the average viewer. Too many weight classes and way too many belts for each weight class.
On top of all this the American up and coming talent is **** because the American youth looks towards stick and ball sports way over boxing as its much more appealing to participate in(High school sports, College scholarships, lucrative salaries for NBA, MLB, NFL).
i hate arum like i hate maypu$$y but not as much. call me a hater. though i wish pac fought tough opponents, i dun tink the names u mention pose any serious trouble to pac. i like pac to fight martinez at light middleweight catchweight (it can be made) or paul williams (i know he was knockout but hes still legit) and of cos maypu$$y.
im beginning to get frustrated wit boxing man and of cos wit pac performance last night giving shane a chance to survive, im looking up at mma websites.
mma? dont do it man a change of the guard is due anytime now
Better and braver? Really? You see and read stories all the time throughout history where guys backed out of fights, or quit.
As far as terrestrial TV, if that fight, along with every other major fight was on free TV how would that be bad? No one would be resenting an entire sport because they just spent $65+tax on a turd.
im not even gonna pretend im as much of a historian as you, but certainly they where better. that is undeniable. i do think this generation are not as 'hard' as previous generations
bad for the fighters, certainly, they wouldnt get paid as much. but maybe thats why fighters arent as hard as what they where. a mixture of terrestial and PPV is the future and is fans are not clued up enough to tell the difference between a dud and barnburner, **** um
a) Thats not an excuse - fighters where just better and Braver back in the day, i think having the Manny PAc - Shane Mosley fight on terrestrial television would do more harm than good
Better and braver? Really? You see and read stories all the time throughout history where guys backed out of fights, or quit.
As far as terrestrial TV, if that fight, along with every other major fight was on free TV how would that be bad? No one would be resenting an entire sport because they just spent $65+tax on a turd.
Give the oppotunity to Timothy Bradley. This will set up big fights with Bradley and Ortiz, Khan, Berto, and maybe Alexander.This is the new crop of fighters that will be the stars of tomorrow if these OLD promoters handle their business right. I don't think Marquez can be competitive at 147 or 144 against Manny. It would be another dead fight like the Mosley disaster. I want to see exciting fights.Manny should open the doors for these guys the same way Oscar opened it for him. To hell with what Arum says. Manny claims that he wants the people to be happy, so he needs to take it apon himself to make these fights happen. If Arum won't provide these fights, then Manny should retire.That's money Arum will lose. By constantly fighting these type of fights, its killing Manny's reputation and killing the sport.
bingo
im not a fan of floyd much either but if he comes back and fights Ortiz then that is a start at least
These fighters today arent passing the torch to the next generation
One household name a decade do not help the sport.
Bad decisions go back to something I've posted before but get little response with: State commissions. They have zero accountability and no incentive to be good.
a) Thats not an excuse - fighters where just better and Braver back in the day, i think having the Manny PAc - Shane Mosley fight on terrestrial television would do more harm than good
b) Agreed. The money maker in the equation more often than not get the decision, which is why guys like emmanuel augustus rarely got a decision
And Boxing is turning into a company business sports like MMA where you fight for one company like UFC or Strikeforce etc. Arum doesnt mix it with other promotions anymore and boxing cant work like that.
Give the oppotunity to Timothy Bradley. This will set up big fights with Bradley and Ortiz, Khan, Berto, and maybe Alexander.This is the new crop of fighters that will be the stars of tomorrow if these OLD promoters handle their business right. I don't think Marquez can be competitive at 147 or 144 against Manny. It would be another dead fight like the Mosley disaster. I want to see exciting fights.Manny should open the doors for these guys the same way Oscar opened it for him. To hell with what Arum says. Manny claims that he wants the people to be happy, so he needs to take it apon himself to make these fights happen. If Arum won't provide these fights, then Manny should retire.That's money Arum will lose. By constantly fighting these type of fights, its killing Manny's reputation and killing the sport.
Jose Benavidez Jr.
Iv seen better prospects than him not make it, and looking at Bobs matchmaking at the minute i dont think his potential will be realised with Top Ranks Ultra cautious matchmaking
Jeez that could be another thread, how the myth of Top Rank matchmaking actually ruins fighters, case in point Miguel Cotto, whose prime was wasted at 140 fighting b class fighters getting safe money
dude you know i usually agree with your posts but come on man. That didnt stop Mike tyson being a household name, or Manny Pac
One household name a decade do not help the sport.
bull**** decisions, bull**** cards and one sided fights kill boxing
Bad decisions go back to something I've posted before but get little response with: State commissions. They have zero accountability and no incentive to be good.
PPV and Premium Cable kill boxing. If HBO wouldn't have got Foreman-Frazier 38 years ago boxing would be huge today.
dude you know i usually agree with your posts but come on man. That didnt stop Mike tyson being a household name, or Manny Pac
bull**** decisions, bull**** cards and one sided fights kill boxing
gamboa might go to jail
juanma is not as good as first thought
Brandon Rios is pissed cos Bob barely gets him a fight
Soto's gone
Karma
who's Bob got after Manny? No-one
Jose Benavidez Jr.
gamboa might go to jail
juanma is not as good as first thought
Brandon Rios is pissed cos Bob barely gets him a fight
Soto's gone
Karma
who's Bob got after Manny? No-one