Mosleys half-retarded attempt at boxing actually frustrated Pac.

Mike Tyson did it, from 1985 - 1991... Thanks!™ ummm..... tyson koed everyone he fought? tyson looked great in every fight in his prime? tyson had similar fights to what pac had against mosley. guys who just covered up and didn't try to win. tyson didn't ko all of them.

floyd would destroy pac so bad, he's only avoiding pac out of pity! and he respects fans so much that he refuses to make them shell out $60 for an easy fight! seriously speaking though, i think the mosley and cotto fights showed that pac has trouble cornering defensive-minded fighters. on the other hand, i think people talking about floyd's amazing jab need to keep in mind that pac has always, always been open to a good jab, but eats em for breakfast. if floyd's gonna hurt pac, it'll be with the right straight or the check hook as pac lunges in. on the other hand, i can see pac landing that massive left straight of his, especially early on. who would buckle first? the fight still hasn't been fought, gentlemen. all predictions saying "it'd be an easy fight for pac/floyd" are just that, predictions. i think it's safe to say though that the biggest doubter of the "floyd would beat pac easy" theory is floyd himself.

And what happened to Cotto and Diaz? What happened to Margarito and Hatton also when they fought back? How did their faces look? I'm a die hard Cotto fan, but he, like Margarito are static fighters. Hatton KO'd himself, so he doesn't count. What Shane did was more evasive and delaying the action than anything, I wouldn't call it boxing effectively.

For almost half the fight, Cotto literally just moved. Pac dealt with that just fine. Mosley ran, we know that. But Pac still could have looked better than he did. He didn't look good. We don't know why, it could be many things. Team Pac has already placed the blame on his apparent bad leg. But for whatever reason, he couldn't put the pace up. Mosleys jab. Its the only punch Shane threw.

Like Ali once said you see the opening but your body cant process what your brains tells you, Thats when you know you are done. Have just watch the fight just now again, and it isnt so much that Mosley was scared to get hit alone because even when Pac jumps in and seem out of position and ready or open to a counter Mosley just couldnt pull the trigger and counter Pac. Go back and watch the clottey fight because EVERYTIME Clottey sees an opening or sees Pac out of position he throws and lands from his shell.. yet he was still the loser in 12 out of 12 rounds, is that what you mean with somebody being able to pull the trigger? to me clottey and mosley fought the same way, the reason being i suspect they hesitated because they were thinking its only a ploy/bait by pacquiao to entice them to fight toe to toe but they thought theyre smart enough to frustrate pacquiao first by not engaging and hope and wait pacquiao make the mistake but the barrage and the combos and the speed by which its being delivered made them more weary and worried of a counter by pacquiao that they hold back executing their plan. they choose not to take the risk dela hoya did, cotto did, hatton did, margarito did so what happened to them? perhaps clottey and mosley sees themselves having those cuts and bruises and laying on the canvass or on a stretcher on the way to the hospital. they probably played it on their mind that win or lose, lost by knocked out or survived in decision theyre getting their losers purse just the same. so they decided better than getting their purse in full rather than spend part of it on hospital bills.

If he is a different guy he is a different guy, thing may turn out different but Floyd is always well prepared so I see no reason to expect much different. If Floyd can make it work it will not really be that taxing on him. Fair enough. I just don't see the same Floyd as before. If he doesn't have those reflexes of old he's in for a long night.

Yeah, your right he does have the ability to do that. The thing I see as being the problem is that he is getting older and his reflexes are not what they used to be. I don't believe he'd be able to keep it up for 12 rds. If he is a different guy he is a different guy, thing may turn out different but Floyd is always well prepared so I see no reason to expect much different. If Floyd can make it work it will not really be that taxing on him.

I think he has the boxing ability range and timing to keep Manny where he wants him and the smarts to know when Manny gets through to step inside. Strength and power are over rated attribute as there is ore than one way to keep a guy off you~ Yeah, your right he does have the ability to do that. The thing I see as being the problem is that he is getting older and his reflexes are not what they used to be. I don't believe he'd be able to keep it up for 12 rds.

I think Pacquiao proved in the last 3 rounds that if he would of stepped up the action from the start Mosley would of been out of there with 7 rounds. Mosley was barely surviving what was giving to him in those final 3 rounds. Do you think he would of survived long if Pacquiao did that from the opening bell?

funny how people think however pac fought in his last fight is the same EXACT way he'd fight mayweather.

Do you think Floyd has the strenghth, power to keep Manny at bay? Mosley stood in that middleground with Floyd all night and got potshotted to death. While with Pac he tried his hardest to keep his distance so he wouldn't get caught flush again. I think he has the boxing ability range and timing to keep Manny where he wants him and the smarts to know when Manny gets through to step inside. Strength and power are over rated attribute as there is ore than one way to keep a guy off you~

No I am saying his approach would be different, Floyd just needs to fight as the big man and screw the bullshit. Floyd would come forward when it suits him but he would not sit in the middle ground he would press all the way in to grapple and get some work done. Do you think Floyd has the strenghth, power to keep Manny at bay? Mosley stood in that middleground with Floyd all night and got potshotted to death. While with Pac he tried his hardest to keep his distance so he wouldn't get caught flush again.

Floyd beat all the lefties so are you saying he would lose? or are you saying he wouldn't come forward like burner says and try to use his length to keep Manny at the end of his punches? No I am saying his approach would be different, Floyd just needs to fight as the big man and screw the bullshit. Floyd would come forward when it suits him but he would not sit in the middle ground he would press all the way in to grapple and get some work done.

The lefties he fought were all his size, Floyd out ranges Manny badly so the outcomes would be quite different. Floyd beat all the lefties so are you saying he would lose? or are you saying he wouldn't come forward like burner says and try to use his length to keep Manny at the end of his punches?

I would love for Floyd to walk right at Pac. Like the man said this isn't preretirement Floyd. If Shane hit Floyd by throwing a bodyshot then coming over the top with a right that he didn't even see, didn't move, turn, nothing. Pac will catch him. Then like what he did to Shane after getting tagged, Floyd will try to use distance. But like you pointed out he doesn't do that against lefties. The lefties he fought were all his size, Floyd out ranges Manny badly so the outcomes would be quite different.

Clearly this poster has never seen Floyd fight a lefty. My goodness. He walks right at them. Again I wonder do these guys actually watch Floyd fight or do they just read hate threads about him. :pat: I would love for Floyd to walk right at Pac. Like the man said this isn't preretirement Floyd. If Shane hit Floyd by throwing a bodyshot then coming over the top with a right that he didn't even see, didn't move, turn, nothing. Pac will catch him. Then like what he did to Shane after getting tagged, Floyd will try to use distance. But like you pointed out he doesn't do that against lefties.

Bullsh*t dude lol... Floyd's best shot at beating Pacquiao is fighting HIS fight. HIS fight isn't walking right at Pacquiao. This isn't 2004-2005 Floyd we're talking about. In the last several years he's shown he won't take unnecessary risks, and though many of you think he's just wiping the floor with Pacquiao easily, you guys have more confidence in him than he does for himself. You think this whole PEDs thing he sprung up was because he thought Pacquiao was an easy fight to begin with? Trust me, behind the smoke and mirrors, Floyd knows Pacquiao is a very risky fight, otherwise he would've made Pacquiao another statistic already (maybe twice over). Clearly this poster has never seen Floyd fight a lefty. My goodness. He walks right at them. Again I wonder do these guys actually watch Floyd fight or do they just read hate threads about him. :pat:

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Cotto actually threw punches and combinations, he at least gave Pac chances to slug it out toe to toe... Cotto moved and boxed, moved and threw.. Mosley just moved. For almost half the fight, Cotto literally just moved. Pac dealt with that just fine. Mosley ran, we know that. But Pac still could have looked better than he did. He didn't look good. We don't know why, it could be many things. Team Pac has already placed the blame on his apparent bad leg. But for whatever reason, he couldn't put the pace up.

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