Mannys riding a huge wave of endorsement deals right??so how can he win the lawsuit??

but seriously who sues for someone saying something about u? none of you would do this i know it for a fact... the thing is most of u just have something personal against the guy hes suing which is okay but come on man are we really discussing this????? suing over a person saying something about u or makeing an accusation??? in america??? Yes America the place where a American sued McDonald's cause they cup of coffee was too hot and burned them and they actually won!!!!

What's the point of this thread? because I sure as hell don't get it.

he wont win the lawsuit not in nevada. if it were in california than easliy but not nevada.

Lets see what my text book says. In short Manny's endorsement deals would be irrelevant even if they occurred before the lawsuit. Floyd's chances for success are in the defences for defamation. i supposed business sense would tell us that endorsements could have been offered more had the accusations not occurred. i don't see the importance or relevance of this except when deciding the amount of compensation pac would be entitled to if he wins the lawsuit, if it comes to that at all. accusers would have to be fined or something. defamation cases can be settled by simple apology.

Since we seem to have all these experts on here I have a question cause I obviously dont know can the judge order pac to be tested? (I dont think so) and do you think the judge will put it back on pac and ask him why didnt you just agree to the testing and prove you are clean Im not blaming pac or floyd just questions I have issue is not about the test. it's about the time it is conducted, ie, being close to the fight. why would pac reject the judge's order if the testing is carried out outside of training and fighting period? pac agreed to unlimited urine testing, 3 blood tests, plus one immediately after the fight.

Manny's guilty because he reacted suspectingly??!!! WTF is that??!!! So if i accuse you of raping my dog, and you said to me. 'That's not true, i don't even know your dog, i'm into goats not dog, f**** yourself!!', so you must be guilty then coz you reaction is suspecting!! Stupid... I have no idea what your talking about, who raped your dog, or why you chose such a colorful analogy. The way i see it is, and correct me if i'm wrong; No one, and i mean nobody would even place Pac in the same sentance as PEDs if he hadn't changed his story about why he didn't want to be test and when/how close to the fight Pac was willing to get tested; First it was 3 blood tests, on 3 dates of his choice, 27 days before the fight, then it was a 24 day cut off, then 14, then 7. If Pac had said go **** yourself Floyd, you're not the boss of me from the start, then he would have came out looking fine. He'd have looked even better if he called Mayweather's "bluff" and accepted the testing. Instead is was excuse after excuse, and that's what tarnished Pac's name and created doubt in people's minds about his greatness. At least in my opinion.

Since we seem to have all these experts on here I have a question cause I obviously dont know can the judge order pac to be tested? (I dont think so) and do you think the judge will put it back on pac and ask him why didnt you just agree to the testing and prove you are clean Im not blaming pac or floyd just questions I have

Lets see what my text book says. In short Manny's endorsement deals would be irrelevant even if they occurred before the lawsuit. Floyd's chances for success are in the defences for defamation. sad how this is possibly the most educated post in this whole thread yet somehow, manages to get ignored...

There is a difference between a bigot, racist and a person spouting off stereotypes and a lot of yall need to learn those differences.

Im confused. yes you are, the first part of that post was from me, the 2nd part was from someone else :D

But it's been Pac and his team's reaction to the accusations that are suspect, at least IMO. Manny's guilty because he reacted suspectingly??!!! WTF is that??!!! So if i accuse you of raping my dog, and you said to me. 'That's not true, i don't even know your dog, i'm into goats not dog, f**** yourself!!', so you must be guilty then coz you reaction is suspecting!! Stupid...

I'm Pinoy and I'm sure I have more knowledge and experience with the American and the UK legal systems than you, simply because it's my job. So, don't generalize if you don't want to come off looking like a fool. He's exhibiting it already so no need to make him look like a fool.

They don't see it that way, dude. It's a huge irony, indeed. Here are people who were victims of racism themselves turn out be equally racists. And when something goes wrong they're the first to play the race card. Fortunately, not all of them are bad and there are still decent people left who see things the way they are. i'm not phinoy nor white. so i can relate to colored people. pacman is an exciting boxer in the ring. there are things in life that have crossover appeal -- beauty, skill, intelligence, charisma, talent, etc. racists can never understand that pac has that appeal.

How was he affected by the accusations and hes constantly getting endorsement deals?? his status hasnt been effected 1 bit hes still a superstar this :wank: “Who knows how many deals and endorsements Manny could’ve gotten sooner than this. The answer is some advertisers might have been scared off. “The answer is we’ll never know.” - says Bob Father Arum. he should know a thing or two about this he's a lawyer.

You're right to a point. It's not good to be accused of something one has never done. However, all of the drama could have been nipped in the bud from the very beginning. If random drug testing (which is what the lawsuit revolves around) was a bad idea, it would have been wiser, I think, to just say: "NO. it's unnecessary. We've never failed a drug test." Or "I'll take the test, and if I'm clean then we can go to court for falsely accusing me of drug use." Remember: Floyd has never tested positive for PED's in the past either, and was willing to submit himself to random drug testing as well. As far as I understand, the suit was triggered when Oscar, in a newsletter, asked if Manny was in fact scared to submit to drug testing. That was after everyone else started making similar statements. That's when Bob supposedly blew his top and called he fight off. so you're saying pac's concerns about blood tests being conducted close to the fight should be rejected and ignored? is that really how it is in real life? if one side has the right to demand these things, why is the other side not have the right to reject it? btw, in your opinion, do you believe pacquiao is using peds? do you honestly believe that this test is necessary? (these are for discussion purposes only. pac already stated that he is willing to take the test. if he's lying, then floyd and only floyd can call pac's bluffs by simply picking up the phone and mention his intent on entering another round of negotiations. that is if he is really interested in the fight.)

"Floyd is the greatest! he submitted himself to unsanctioned testing............ that he himself requested" :wank:

Remember: Floyd has never tested positive for PED's in the past either, and was willing to submit himself to random drug testing as well. no shit, he submitted to it. he is the one who requested it in the first place :lol1:

lrn2read...It was relating to my experiences with these threads in general and was very applicable to some of the statements made in threads like these. People who have no experience with the American legal system and learned their knowledge of the American legal system from threads on philboxing shouldn't be commenting in threads like these. This applies to you. lrn2read...your own words. Why are you talking about philboxing? You didn't cite specific posters, people, or how you knew they were pinoy. You generalized all pinoys. If you don't see the mistake in that, then you're clearly lost. Once again, generalizing doesn't make you sound credible.

I love how the pinoy have all suddenly become experts on the American legal system in threads like these. Motion to dismiss was denied (fairly common, and Pacquiao's side does have grounds that their case should be heard), Now the burden of proof is on Pacquiao's side to prove both that slander occurred and that he has incurred a loss in income as a result of the slander. There are any number of things he can do to prove the loss in income, but proving that slander was committed will be the most difficult task. He essentially has to prove that GBP/Mayweathers made the PED accusations knowing that they were false. If he can prove that slander did in fact occur, then he has to provide damages that resulted. Prove that he was dropped from endorsement deals because of the allegations (to my knowledge this hasn't happened) Prove that his career and subsequently, his income in relation to boxing, has been negatively affected by the accusations (it hasn't IMO). Prove that endorsement deals that were in the works did not come to fruition entirely (or majorly) because of the accusations. (This is really the only way to go about winning damages in this and is likely the route they will go down. I'm sure a guy like Arum has plenty of friends in the proper channels that he could completely fabricate some endorsement "deals" that fell through because of the accusations). My sister is a ca lawyer (american educated) and my father is a california lawyer (p.i. educated)who also has many pinoy lawyer friends who were educated in the p.i. and took the bar here. I also know many doctors educated in the Pinas but passed the test here so they are doctors here. You are so ignorant and racist.. The laws in the P.I. are modeled after the laws in the U.S. hence it is easy for a lawyer in the P.I. to come here take the bar and become one here.

yes. i'd like to see cameras also. there needs to be consequences, bro. accusing anyone of wrongdoing out of jealousy and hatred without any shred of evidence should be punishable. it's wrong, bro. you'd hope it will never happen to you or any of your relatives. i don't know why blacks support this when i see them on tv a lot complaining about profiling cases. fact that they were also victims of massive racism in the past how can anybody imagine them supporting these accusations without proof? You're right to a point. It's not good to be accused of something one has never done. However, all of the drama could have been nipped in the bud from the very beginning. If random drug testing (which is what the lawsuit revolves around) was a bad idea, it would have been wiser, I think, to just say: "NO. it's unnecessary. We've never failed a drug test." Or "I'll take the test, and if I'm clean then we can go to court for falsely accusing me of drug use." Remember: Floyd has never tested positive for PED's in the past either, and was willing to submit himself to random drug testing as well. As far as I understand, the suit was triggered when Oscar, in a newsletter, asked if Manny was in fact scared to submit to drug testing. That was after everyone else started making similar statements. That's when Bob supposedly blew his top and called he fight off.