At this point I have to ask you if you know anything whatsoever about what happened in WW2? I don’t hate America but I do know my history you need to look up the battle of Stalingrad in which Soviet forces beat the bulk of the German army losing 1,129,000 soldiers in the process. It is regarded as the bloodiest battle of the war, and marked a notable changing point as the beginning of the end for the Germans.
"The disaster of Stalingrad profoundly shocked the German people and armed forces alike...Never before in Germany's history had so large a body of troops come to so dreadful an end." - General Siegfried von Westphal, 1943.
Now after all this is a boxing forum and a topic about Bradley ducking Khan so I’m not going to continue educating you on the history of WW2, if you genuinely believe I’m making this up i welcome you to start a forum in the lounge and i will set you straight there as well.
yeah, i know many soviets died during the war. it mostly cause they were poorly equipped and cause of incompetent and brutal leaders. you dont need to continue educating me. i can tell youve done your reseach into americas history so you could bash it. peace.:boxing:
It is well known Hbo lost money because of bradley and alexander, they basically admitted they overpaid for the fight and it was not worth it.
bradley will suffer for not taking this fight, nobody wants to watch bradley, he has no fan base, if he pisses off the men who feed him (hbo), then he will feel their wrath unless he accepts. they will tell him to piss off to show time who will offer him no more than 200k for each fight
Khan will go strength to strength
it doesnt matter when it comes down to business who has defeated more champs
what matters is who makes the most money, khan brings in the money, mosley fougth more champs than floyd, does that mean he deserved a higher pay day? no it does not
bradley makes little money for hbo
these are the cold hard facts (well some opinions like yours...)
Bradley is like the sidekick who is too stubborn to see the truth, people pay more to watch khan, yet he wants his slice, aint gonna happen, not in a million years
khan will continue to grow while bradley will remain as an espn fighter 2 years from now
May has won more belts the Mosley??So what are you talking about??Not to mention he is undefeated??Hoya even had to give Mayweather a big piece of the pie because resume speaks loud my friend those are the cold facts right there..
What did I say in the post you responded to that was an opinion??
Bradley won't be on espn unless he losses a few fights(which I don't see happening)Showtime is doing well right now I don't know if ya notice..Anyhow HBO wants the 140lb Champ to be crown on HBO you better believe that..They should just pay what it coast to do that..1.20 and this fight get's done..It has nothing to do with how much Khan is making but everything to do with how much Bradley is making..1.3 1.7 is not enough for a fight this big sorry...Gonna have to do better then that..:sad2:
Oh and Khan is the Challenger as well...So Bradley has a right to feel this way..
Now you are just being obtuse and delusional. " not estimates or some bias writer"? What is the matter with you? This isn't some conspiracy. I've already posted you an aritcle that said Alexander-Bradley had only sold 350 tickets.
It's also been reported multiple times, Khan-Maidana sold 4,000 tickets. There is no information to suggest this is inacurate. You're just being obtuse and stupid now.
You can, speculate like some conspiracy theory nut all you want.
THE FACT IS ALEXANDER - BRADLEY LOST HBO MONEY. THIS IS A FACT. So who cares about the gate?
KHAN - MAIDANA MADE HBO MONEY. THIS IS A FACT.
Nothing you say or do, will change this, so stop arguing idiotic bull$hit. It's pathetic.
I'm not surprised it sold well tho GBP Duh!!..Ortiz Duh!!To believe Khan sold that himself would be a bit idiotic ya know??
Sad part here for real is most don't realize that Khan is a challenger in this case..For the Champ(Bradley)to take a 100k rise in his pay from his last fight is dumb..I don't believe anybody on this site would take that deal unless they were a complete moron..Those are the facts people,give Bradley 1.20or25 and we got a fight other then that 1.3 1.5 1.6 1.7 go shove it up ya azz..Bradley is the Champ and don't nobody become Champ at 140lb without going threw him..How is that for facts??Pay the man so we can get this show on the road..
Anyone saying Bradley is ducking Khan is a f'ing moron who should look at resume and or belts that has been held..Khan 1 belt 1 Champion fought..Bradley come we know this mans resume/accomplishments and they are greater then that of Khan..Both of these fighters are at a top level and neither is scared of the other..But this is a business and must be treated as such..You want facts those are all facts..
It is well known Hbo lost money because of bradley and alexander, they basically admitted they overpaid for the fight and it was not worth it.
bradley will suffer for not taking this fight, nobody wants to watch bradley, he has no fan base, if he pisses off the men who feed him (hbo), then he will feel their wrath unless he accepts. they will tell him to piss off to show time who will offer him no more than 200k for each fight
Khan will go strength to strength
it doesnt matter when it comes down to business who has defeated more champs
what matters is who makes the most money, khan brings in the money, mosley fougth more champs than floyd, does that mean he deserved a higher pay day? no it does not
bradley makes little money for hbo
these are the cold hard facts (well some opinions like yours...)
Bradley is like the sidekick who is too stubborn to see the truth, people pay more to watch khan, yet he wants his slice, aint gonna happen, not in a million years
khan will continue to grow while bradley will remain as an espn fighter 2 years from now
Sad part here for real is most don't realize that Khan is a challenger in this case..For the Champ(Bradley)to take a 100k rise in his pay from his last fight is dumb..I don't believe anybody on this site would take that deal unless they were a complete moron..Those are the facts people,give Bradley 1.20or25 and we got a fight other then that 1.3 1.5 1.6 1.7 go shove it up ya azz..Bradley is the Champ and don't nobody become Champ at 140lb without going threw him..How is that for facts??Pay the man so we can get this show on the road..
Anyone saying Bradley is ducking Khan is a f'ing moron who should look at resume and or belts that has been held..Khan 1 belt 1 Champion fought..Bradley come we know this mans resume/accomplishments and they are greater then that of Khan..Both of these fighters are at a top level and neither is scared of the other..But this is a business and must be treated as such..You want facts those are all facts..
You're the one that is lying and speculating nonsense. There is no information to suggest a significant portion of Khan - Maidana was filler or comps. While it's already been confirmed for fact Alexander - Bradley sold less than 1000 tickets.
HBO has also confirmed Alexander-Bradley LOST THEM MONEY.
While Khan - Maidana MADE THEM MONEY. This is even on Dan Rafael's blog. Is he a liar too?
So how many tickets did Khan Maidana sell??Post the link with the nums not estimates or some bias writer saying one made money and one did not..
Like I said it was documented that Bradley Alexander did not do well,Khan and Maidana did not do well either tho and most who came to that fight were not even fans of Khan's they were there for Ortiz..But once again that's promotion giant again at work..Hiding all these facts because they are a good promotion company..
Khan Maidana did very poor and a lot of tickets were giving out as well..Don't down play and try to lie about the other..I don't believe Khan Maidana tickets sells were even released,you know why??Because Khan has a Major Promotion company behind him..
Mate
at the end of the day
Khan vs Madina had 4-4.5k official sales with the rest given out
Khans last fight did 14-15k sales as well
Khan vs Maidana made hbo money
Bradley vs Alexander did less than 1k official sales whichw as confirmed by HBo, rest was given out free. HBO also confirmed it made them a loss
Bradley is a non entertaining fighter with a very small fan base, in fact I doubt bar his close friends and family pay to watch him
this is not a dig at you but these are the how things are, the guy who makes the money in the fight takes more home, that is a fact of life
its just stupid to think that without the soviets alone everything would have been lost. its obvious you hate america, thats why make that stupid **** up.
At this point I have to ask you if you know anything whatsoever about what happened in WW2? I don’t hate America but I do know my history you need to look up the battle of Stalingrad in which Soviet forces beat the bulk of the German army losing 1,129,000 soldiers in the process. It is regarded as the bloodiest battle of the war, and marked a notable changing point as the beginning of the end for the Germans.
"The disaster of Stalingrad profoundly shocked the German people and armed forces alike...Never before in Germany's history had so large a body of troops come to so dreadful an end." - General Siegfried von Westphal, 1943.
Now after all this is a boxing forum and a topic about Bradley ducking Khan so I’m not going to continue educating you on the history of WW2, if you genuinely believe I’m making this up i welcome you to start a forum in the lounge and i will set you straight there as well.
You're a liar and an idiot.
Bradley-Alexander sold less than 1000 tickets. This has already been confirmed, multiple times. The rest of the audience was comps and filler, given out for free.
Khan-Maidana sold almost 4000 tickets.
Khan sold 17,000 tickets close to his home town. Bradley sold close to 1,500 tickets in his hometown.
Bradley HAS LOST HBO a lot of money. Khan on the otherhand has MADE HBO money. FACT.
Khan Maidana did very poor and a lot of tickets were giving out as well..Don't down play and try to lie about the other..I don't believe Khan Maidana tickets sells were even released,you know why??Because Khan has a Major Promotion company behind him..
LOL! I love it when these losers melt down. One must have to wonder how much of a friendless loser this person must be to get so worked up on internet forum. Its so sad this is what consumes this basement dwelling loser. And it's funny they don't realise melting down just makes them look pathetic.
To all the rest of you dumbasses like Jessica Alba. Its not ABOUT THE MONEY.
Bradley thinks the offer is great. Its his biggest paydate. He's avoiding Khan for someone EASIER and for LESS MONEY.
THE REASON he is avoiding Khan is, because he wants to cash in on his guarantee with HBO. He thinks why should he fight Khan now, if he can get 1.2 million from HBO by fighting someone easier, and then later on fight Khan for more money. The problem with this is, the fight will not happen later, most likely. And HBO is not going to pay Bradley for another big money fight, since he has lost them A LOT OF MONEY already. Remember Bradley is a non entity, he has NO DRAWING POWER.
This whole 50/50 split is BS, because Bradley isn't asking for 50/50. HE KNOWS that someone of his popularity is getting more money than he deserves to. Bradley simply does not want to fight Khan this year, he wants an easier opponent, because he is a coward who prefers an easier opponent.
You guys CAN PISS and MOAN all you want, but this has already been CONFIMRED by Bradleys own team, and HIMSELF. It's also PLASTERED ALL OVER ESPN. So you're the ONLY IGNORANT FOOLS arguing the fight isn't happening over a 50/50 split.
So you can keep deluding yourself and arguing nonsense amongst yourself, but THE WHOLE WORLD ALREADY KNOWS BRADLEY IS AVOIDING THE FIGHT FOR AN EASIER OPPONENT. So you're basically just acting like retarded ignorant fools. You're basically saying, I WANT TO ACT IGNORANT AND STUPID.
This is stupid(no offense bro)so you don't believe if HBO offered Bradley about 1.20or25 mill we would not see this fight??The problem is Bradley can make 1.2 fighting anybody so why fight Khan for 1.3??100k more??Sounds like a stupid move if ya ask me..Sadly I agree with you if the fight does not happen now we most likely won't see it because Khan will want to move far away from Bradley..But if he does'int much respect,but something don't seem right imo with HBO why not offer Bradley a lil more money at least??Why so hell bent on this 1.3 or no fight??
You are acting like a prepubescent little girl.
I might as well school your dumb ass on history Allied forces would have won WW2 regardless of if America joined in or not They barely engaged (in relative terms of course).
The major contribution made by Americans in WWII was in the Pacific against the Japanese. They didn't selflessly come to anyone's rescue but entered the war in self-defence after Pearl Harbour. The Soviets are the guys without whom all would have been lost. Britain was the country that entered the war to protect other countries.
What’s more Bradley is clearly ducking Khan.
its just stupid to think that without the soviets alone everything would have been lost. its obvious you hate america, thats why you made that stupid **** up.
khan makes more money for golden boy and hbo than bradley does
he sells out arenas, he gets ppv buys in the uk while nobody wants to watch bradley
using the logic of champion is wrong as someone like mayweather who has no titles is a bigger draw than a champ like mosley was, see my point?
bradley is a ducking fraud, a total joke, was running his gob when khan was fighting someone else but when khan went for him, he ran away
He(Khan)also fights for a major promotion company,and has fought on HBO longer..Think about his last two fights in the states..One was in New York against a New Yorker..Make no mistake about it,I'm from NY and Paulie is very popular here..His next fight he had Ortiz on the undercard most of the fans in the house for Khan Maidana was fans of Ortiz not Khan..Khan is not a draw here but he does have a good promotion team behind him who know how to make khan look good..Bradley on the other hand has Shaw who hands are glued to his wallet and has never really promoted Bradley right at all..Imo Bradley is so impressive because any popularity Bradley has got has been purely from what he has done in the ring,not the kind ya get from being with a major promotion company..
dumb ass post. stop trying to take advantage of some dumb ass retard.
Where do you people get this crap from? Why are they under this misguided impression? What do they teach in their schools? Read a history book and get back to me maybe then you can point out what is wrong with my post instead of spouting redundant bull****.
Or should fighters' purses be based not on world championships but on how popular one is?
bradley cant even sell 2k seats,if i was khan i would tell him to fukk off.
bradley does not want the fight,the risk is too high and he knows that,he loses this and no manny or floyd fight for him
You are acting like a prepubescent little girl.
I might as well school your dumb ass on history Allied forces would have won WW2 regardless of if America joined in or not They barely engaged (in relative terms of course).
The major contribution made by Americans in WWII was in the Pacific against the Japanese. They didn't selflessly come to anyone's rescue but entered the war in self-defence after Pearl Harbour. The Soviets are the guys without whom all would have been lost. Britain was the country that entered the war to protect other countries.
What’s more Bradley is clearly ducking Khan.
dumb ass post. stop trying to take advantage of some dumb ass retard.
IT SHOULD BE 50/50 CASE CLOSED. Bradley has EVERY right in the world to refuse the fight otherwise.
It's the same stupid LIMEY CUNTS who try to claim that RJJ "DUCKED" Joe Calzaghe because he wouldn't fight him IN ENGLAND for a 50/50 split.
FUKK OFF. I HATE YOU STUPID LIMEY CUNTS.
I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE ALL BEEN SLAUGHTERED DURING WW2. SERIOUSLY. I WISH YOU WERE ALL SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW YOU DISRESPECTFUL PIECES OF TRASH.
:lol1:
Did you get raped by a Brit?
It's embarrassing to read such pathetic rantings. When you reach puberty or come off your period, I assume you'll be embarrassed as well.
On Topic: Bradley certainly deserves an equal share, but in reality it isn't going to happen when you consider the money Khan brings to the table compared to Bradley. I think 60/40 in Khan's favour might do it. I certainly hope so anyway because I want to see this fight.
IT SHOULD BE 50/50 CASE CLOSED. Bradley has EVERY right in the world to refuse the fight otherwise.
It's the same stupid LIMEY CUNTS who try to claim that RJJ "DUCKED" Joe Calzaghe because he wouldn't fight him IN ENGLAND for a 50/50 split.
FUKK OFF. I HATE YOU STUPID LIMEY CUNTS.
I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE ALL BEEN SLAUGHTERED DURING WW2. SERIOUSLY. I WISH YOU WERE ALL SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW YOU DISRESPECTFUL PIECES OF TRASH.
You are acting like a prepubescent little girl.
I might as well school your dumb ass on history Allied forces would have won WW2 regardless of if America joined in or not They barely engaged (in relative terms of course).
The major contribution made by Americans in WWII was in the Pacific against the Japanese. They didn't selflessly come to anyone's rescue but entered the war in self-defence after Pearl Harbour. The Soviets are the guys without whom all would have been lost. Britain was the country that entered the war to protect other countries.
What’s more Bradley is clearly ducking Khan.
khan makes more money for golden boy and hbo than bradley does
he sells out arenas, he gets ppv buys in the uk while nobody wants to watch bradley
using the logic of champion is wrong as someone like mayweather who has no titles is a bigger draw than a champ like mosley was, see my point?
bradley is a ducking fraud, a total joke, was running his gob when khan was fighting someone else but when khan went for him, he ran away