Why does Roach/Pacquiao allow cbs to show training, sparring sessions, and game plans? Is this that gonna be a disadvantage for the team? I remember during the hatton 24/7 Roach told the camera guys they can show the whole training if they wanted. While Floyd does not allow camera guys in while he is sparring.
I believe they are giving Mosley's team an advantage by getting closer look at how the Pac trains. They are also giving away valuable information on how mosley punches, thus giving away some game plan information.
Any thoughts?
BTW this is not about a Manny vs Floyd thread... that was just an example. Let actually have a real discussion thread :boxing:
Don't get mad little lady, you know I am just kidding :luvbed:
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you should go **** both of your boyfriends on your avatar LOL o wait you can let them do this to you :bukkake: LOL
at least you were smart enough to kinda stay on topic
Fightcamp 360 just came out like 30 minutes ago go put it on youtube so I can watch it. thanks.
It's neither dumbazz get ur panties out ur crack there cutting circulation from ur testicles and it's affecting your thought process.
it's just a joke man this is for you :bukkake:
you should go **** both of your boyfriends on your avatar LOL o wait you can let them do this to you :bukkake: LOL
at least you were smart enough to kinda stay on topic
Fightcamp 360 just came out like 30 minutes ago go put it on youtube so I can watch it. thanks.
It's neither dumbazz get ur panties out ur crack there cutting circulation from ur testicles and it's affecting your thought process.
it's just a joke man this is for you :bukkake:
I bet you havent watched the fight camp episode that was on today. Forget the sparring session and focus more on the several game plans they revealed.
You're an idiot... lets stay on topic and talk about why you believe its an advantage or disadvantage.
Good point !
When it comes to boxing, it's all about the lil details that make a huge difference.
Remember what Roach has said time and time again, he doesn't look for mistakes, he looks for bad habits. Well, in the case of Hatton.... Ricky had a habit of cocking and looping his left hook. Telegraphing that left hook is something Ricky has done all his life. He wasn't about to change something he has been doing since he was a kid in as span of a week.
And if you notice, Roach doesn't reveal these lil tidbit of info until, usually the week before the big fight. By then, it's too lil, too late for the other side to really make any corrections in something their fighter has been doin' for years.
Now, having said all that, there's always a chance that all these revelations by Roach can backfire as well. Nothing is 100% fail proof.
holy **** you just hit the jackpot and i agree 100% on this. Damn Freddie is a very smart man... or is he
Well if anything I think Manny needs to work on the body more than he does.
In the Margarito fight he should of stuck to the body and the fight would have been stopped had he kept going downstairs.
Body shots are very underrated.True. I remember a huge left to the body of Margs in the 4th and he almost went down. A few seconds later, Manny hit him again to the body and Marg almost went down. The problem was that Manny kept on headhunting after rather than destroying the body.
i doubt they would reveal anything that they believed would put them at a disadvantage. we don't see 99% of the sessions/rounds. only way i could see it being a disadvantage is if somehow the other guy thought he was stronger or faster then what he saw in the vids, and rid some of the fear, or gave him more confidence in himself. lol but then again, perhaps it would play into their hands after all because they WANT you to think that . . .
good point
U can barely see anything from the small 30 seconds videos they release.. I want to see the Show time porter sparring with manny vids howcome they don't show those? Exactly.
I bet you havent watched the fight camp episode that was on today. Forget the sparring session and focus more on the several game plans they revealed.
Some pacquiao fans worry about everything, I remember in the Margarito fight some even went to ESNEWS and were attacking Elie Sechkback and where calling him a traitor and even were blamming him if pac lost.
Gees, don't have ur panties in a bunch up your crack.. Roach n Pac have been successful until now, just leave it at that
You're an idiot... lets stay on topic and talk about why you believe its an advantage or disadvantage.
Pacquiao's sparring doesnt gain much advantage. He pretty much fights one way. Here it is and can you stop it? Its not like he has some secret weapon.
Probably mind games.
Sure they can be telling the truth, but the main reason might be to get Mosley to over think his own game plan and Pacquiao's. Mind games are hit or miss, but every little bit helps. Just to get your opponent distracted for a second about what you're going to do in the ring is sometimes all it takes.
I was thinking the same thing, but most of the information that they said were right on the money. Who knows maybe they are just revealing information that pro trainers already know.
lets see if Manny is gonna go to the body on May 7th
Some pacquiao fans worry about everything, I remember in the Margarito fight some even went to ESNEWS and were attacking Elie Sechkback and where calling him a traitor and even were blamming him if pac lost.
Gees, don't have ur panties in a bunch up your crack.. Roach n Pac have been successful until now, just leave it at that
U can barely see anything from the small 30 seconds videos they release.. I want to see the Show time porter sparring with manny vids howcome they don't show those? Exactly.
Cause everyone knows how HAtton fights.. Hatton is not all of a sudden turn into the best defensive fighter in the world because he heard Roach's comment. It's quite obvious.
well if he saw that video wouldnt you try to protect your left side more or take the information with a grain of salt? If i was Hatton, I would've practice how to dodge, slip, or counter that right hook.
nice to know... I just don't understand why they show so much for everyone to see. Honestly, I would not give out any training sessions beside jump roping and hitting the bags.
why do you think they mentioned a small piece of their game plans? I believe they are giving out valuable information and i'm sure other trainers/boxers would not allow that.
Probably mind games.
Sure they can be telling the truth, but the main reason might be to get Mosley to over think his own game plan and Pacquiao's. Mind games are hit or miss, but every little bit helps. Just to get your opponent distracted for a second about what you're going to do in the ring is sometimes all it takes.
agreed, i've notice that the sparring videos being posted is short and nothing u can really base anything off of.
but they are definitely telling everyone so valuable information
Don't forget the right hook.
Whoa finally someone who understands. I never seen that video before and it just validated some information on my topic. Rep for you
Ya, Roach has a tendency to reveal information. In the Hatton fight he said they are gonna stand toe-to-toe and knock him out with Manny's left hand. That probably doesn't mean much, but he didn't lie about that
Cause everyone knows how HAtton fights.. Hatton is not all of a sudden turn into the best defensive fighter in the world because he heard Roach's comment. It's quite obvious.
Ya, Roach has a tendency to reveal information. In the Hatton fight he said they are gonna stand toe-to-toe and knock him out with Manny's left hand. That probably doesn't mean much, but he didn't lie about that
Don't forget the right hook.
This. But I was surprised to hear Roach say they will be going to the body to stop him - if that isn't a smokescreen.
Ya, Roach has a tendency to reveal information. In the Hatton fight he said they are gonna stand toe-to-toe and knock him out with Manny's left hand. That probably doesn't mean much, but he didn't lie about that
This. But I was surprised to hear Roach say they will be going to the body to stop him - if that isn't a smokescreen.
Well if anything I think Manny needs to work on the body more than he does.
In the Margarito fight he should of stuck to the body and the fight would have been stopped had he kept going downstairs.
Body shots are very underrated.
It doesn't really matter. I could watch all the tape of Pac I wanted but if he is that much faster and agile then I am, how am I going to stop it in the first place? After I have been hit by several 4 or 5 punch combinations, my game plan is likely going by the wayside in favor of defense anyways.
hmmm.... so you're basically saying a very fast boxer with excellent footwork will make anybody forget about their game plan?
come on people lets have an intelligent conversion here