These videos prove why Cuba produces the best Boxers in the World.

Sad but Thats how the best are forged too bad they dont have the chance to go pro imagine what they could accomplish if they had the freedom to train for that and translate their skills into it but just Leaving Cuba is seen as a treason act. When your a Cuban Athlete, the moment you defflect you know you will never be able to return or see your family again just think how that might affect someone trying to leave and become a pro.

This **** is just sad man. Half these kids don't even want to box. they are so brainwashed too.

I'm not sure I agree with the first two highlighted statements. I'm not a big fan of the "per capita" tag, for starters. It must also be pointed out that many of the Cuban defectors that have found pro success were amateur standouts and/or Olympic medallists. Naturally, one would expect some measure of triumph from such a crop. If Cubans were allowed to compete freely in the pros, the ratio of competitors to world champions would diminish greatly. I do agree with the last bold statement: before these recent defectors, Cuban-Americans weren't quite so committed to boxing as their island counterparts. Some might believe that Cubans are only now tasting professional accomplishment. Cuba has a long history of pro glory, which was almost completely derailed by Castro and his communist dictatorship. Cuba had her first world champion before either Mexico or Puerto Rico. Eligio Sardiñas better known as "Kid Chocolate", an ATG, became super featherweight champion in 1932. Alberto "Baby" Arizmendi, a HOFer, became Mexico's first world champion in 1934; and Sixto Escobar became the first Puerto Rican world champion in 1935. Not at all man, how many gold medalists you know that defected? Not many, right? Most of the defectors were 2nds, 3rds and 4ths in Cuban teams. If they all could defect than you'd have a lot of the elite leaving too, and the ratios would stay about the same. If you look at the most recent waves of defectors you'll see what I mean... only Gamboa, Lara, Solis, Rigo and Barthelemy were elite. The others were not from the top at all and they're actually doing pretty well right now with very few means and promotion. Of course, not all of the elite will be great pros (Barthelemy is an example)... Some lose the appetite for the sport (Solis), etc. But for the majority they are doing pretty well. And then again, you'll have some other non-elites that will manage to be champ. Dudes like Franco and the younger ones from Ireland can achieve great things. The way you talking is like if every Cuban gold medalist defected and only Gamboa and Rigo made it. But fact is that very few of them actually could defect so having one or two champs is extremelly impressive. To the dude that mentioned the Philippines, what was your point? There is hundreds Philippine pro boxers, I don't think their ratio of champ/active boxers is that great. Back to CubanGuyNYC, it's not about you being a fan of the ratio or not, it's just the correct way to compare things. How else would you do it? It's the only logic and fair way.

People commenting this thread are dumb as fuk. As a matter of fact, Cuba is also the best producer of pro boxers. The proof is right now Cuba only has 50 professional boxers, one of them being an unified champ, two interim champs (who will probably become full champ this year - Rigondeaux and JP Hernandez), and some others to become. Per pro capita, this makes Cuba the best at pro broxing. Just keep the same ratio and imagine if all of them could be pros. Also, over the last 50 years, this is the moment where Cuba reached the highest amount of pro boxers which, as mentionned before, it's only ~50. A few years back there were only like 15 pro Cubans and most of them were Cuban Americans boxing as a hobby. Compare that to the hundreds of Ricans, the thousands of Mexicans, the thousands of Americans... so yeah right cuba really sucks at pro boxing I'm not sure I agree with the first two highlighted statements. I'm not a big fan of the "per capita" tag, for starters. It must also be pointed out that many of the Cuban defectors that have found pro success were amateur standouts and/or Olympic medallists. Naturally, one would expect some measure of triumph from such a crop. If Cubans were allowed to compete freely in the pros, the ratio of competitors to world champions would diminish greatly. I do agree with the last bold statement: before these recent defectors, Cuban-Americans weren't quite so committed to boxing as their island counterparts. Some might believe that Cubans are only now tasting professional accomplishment. Cuba has a long history of pro glory, which was almost completely derailed by Castro and his communist dictatorship. Cuba had her first world champion before either Mexico or Puerto Rico. Eligio Sardiñas better known as "Kid Chocolate", an ATG, became super featherweight champion in 1932. Alberto "Baby" Arizmendi, a HOFer, became Mexico's first world champion in 1934; and Sixto Escobar became the first Puerto Rican world champion in 1935.

yea, like others have said, they produce the best amateur boxers in the world. if u wanna say that, u can. otherwise, there is just no evidence that their amateur boxers translate into pros very well. using gamboa as ur one example is faulty logic. otherwise we can say the Philippines produces the best boxers in the world as well.

Very few athletes can keep that pace up for 8,10 rounds let alone 12. So while Cubans are incredible amateurs, they will need time to adjust to the pro game once Cuba is really free and their people can come to the U.S much easier. Puerto Rico is a great example, they were once a much better amateur program but PR's now train to be pro's and you can see it in their success. Mexicans train almost exclusively for the pro's because they need to make that money ASAP. So you don't see many good Mexican amateurs as you once did but their style is perfect for the pro game, why there are so many good pro Mexican fighters. All true. Puerto Ricans and Mexicans are well represented in the professional ranks. You've answered the question as to why these lands don't produce better amateurs: they focus on the pros. As for Cubans, not only are they limited to amateur athletics, they're stranded in a dictatorship. When Cubans are finally able to compete freely, they'll perform admirably in the pros.

People commenting this thread are dumb as fuk. As a matter of fact, Cuba is also the best producer of pro boxers. The proof is right now Cuba only has 50 professional boxers, one of them being an unified champ, two interim champs (who will probably become full champ this year - Rigondeaux and JP Hernandez), and some others to become. Per pro capita, this makes Cuba the best at pro broxing. Just keep the same ratio and imagine if all of them could be pros. Also, over the last 50 years, this is the moment where Cuba reached the highest amount of pro boxers which, as mentionned before, it's only ~50. A few years back there were only like 15 pro Cubans and most of them were Cuban Americans boxing as a hobby. Compare that to the hundreds of Ricans, the thousands of Mexicans, the thousands of Americans... so yeah right cuba really sucks at pro boxing

they fight amateur their whole career and beat REAL AMATEURS..big deal. A keyboard warrior. Cool.

Yo both of you if you find the time watch these videos. That is true they make the best amateurs because once they arrive in Miami they get carried away with the lifestyle and vices. Not necessarily true.... There is a huge difference between amateur and pro style boxing. The training is completely different. I train amateurs and I can tell you it's about speed and points. The way you teach kids is to hit, not be hit and move. That's great for a 3 round pace, when your letting all hang out but in a 12 round fight, that doesn't really fit well. Very few athletes can keep that pace up for 8,10 rounds let alone 12. So while Cubans are incredible amateurs, they will need time to adjust to the pro game once Cuba is really free and their people can come to the U.S much easier. Puerto Rico is a great example, they were once a much better amateur program but PR's now train to be pro's and you can see it in their success. Mexicans train almost exclusively for the pro's because they need to make that money ASAP. So you don't see many good Mexican amateurs as you once did but their style is perfect for the pro game, why there are so many good pro Mexican fighters.

This is what birthed Yuriorkis Gamboa, the best fighter in the last 25 years

Sick vids. and to the haters, one word, Gamboa.

damn great watch man - pre ciate it. no doubt cuba produces some of the finest boxers in the world, i just wish we got to see more of them try their hand at the professional levels. Glad you watched it this video reminded me how fuking awesome Boxing is.

Most of them don't be sh1t when they get to the pro game. They fight the in the ams for so long they don't know how to adjust to the pro style.

I watched that a few weeks ago. Incredible stuff, they have no choice but to prevail in boxing. It's a sad world out there for them, but they chase glory! I know these were great videos. It is crazy how they are forced to become boxers. Man the team atmosphere is something like I have never seen in Boxing.

I watched that a few weeks ago. Incredible stuff, they have no choice but to prevail in boxing. It's a sad world out there for them, but they chase glory!

Yo both of you if you find the time watch these videos. That is true they make the best amateurs because once they arrive in Miami they get carried away with the lifestyle and vices.

As soon they make it pro they fold like a cardbord box

They produce the best amateurs. Send Nacho Beristain over there for a few years and he'd make great professionals out of them.