Who has the better WW career Floyd or Manny

no poll? i knew this thread was a joke.

jmm didnt fight at 47 and pac will want to fight him at 47, so what will you say then? What? Marquez fought Floyd at WW. So he did fight! He was in the same position as Manny in many of his fights of late. The difference is that Marquez LOST to Floyd. But I don't want to see Marquez vs Manny at 147 and I'm feeling not that much more enthused about 140.

FLoyd Mayweather Jr....He beat Baldomir when Many WW were not willing to fight Baldomir. Margarito, Shane, and a lot of WW at that time were ducking the hard hitting baldomir. Then He Fought Hatton who was undefeated at that time. Many say Hatton was a 140 lbs fighter. But they either forgot or dont know Hatton had a belt at 147 after beating collazo at 147. So hatton was undefeated at 147 as well. He also fought Mosley when Mosley was coming off 2 back to make KOs and Floyd was coming off a 2 year lay off & a tune up with Marquez. Floyd dominated both those fighters. Floyd's JMW resume is also better then Pacquiaos. Pac fought Margarito a WW fighter at 150 for the 154lbs vacant belt. Margarito hadnt won any fights at 154 and had been off a whole year. Not only that he was fighting without his wraps. Floyd fought Oscar at 154 affter oscar ko mayorga and fernado vargus.. hahaha.. 1 Win in Collazo @WW = undefeated at WW.... So what makes it a big Win for Shane in a Margo without wraps then??? :puke:

It still does not change the fact that margarito was more of a threat than Baldomir. In fact, Floyd was petrified on Margarito. Your full of it mate , a name means nothing on face value " when " you beat that name means everything ,,, when Manny beat Margo a lot of water had gone under the bridge , Margo was a shell from the time your talking off him , coming of being KOed and banned for cheating then he was forced to make a weight that at the time hurt him , fuk me its like me saying I can KO Ali , fighters are not at their peak their whole career , Pac just happens to pick the most appropriate time to fight them , just a coincidence aint that right . Baldy was not weight drained and was at his peak , on the nights of the respective fights Baldy was a lot more of a threat than Margo , your problem is you dont understand weight , but Freddie Roach does , thats why he stands firm on his CWs , or no fight !!

Floyd lost to Castillo the first time. No he didn't~ in the record books it is a win. And if a guy loses 5 of the first 6 round it is next to impossible to win a decision and JLC did not sweep the final 6 rounds. JLC should have started earlier then maybe you would have a point.

Blame it on Arum. Smh. Look you can twist and turn but at the end if the day Floyd was scared of Margarito. What's laughable is why Floyd was scared on someone that is nothing special. Most people want to see Floyd and Margarito - Floyd cherrypick Baldomir Most people want to see Floyd and Cotto -Floyd took a vacation. Most people want to see Floyd and PAC. Floyd took another vacation. There's always a routine for Floyd when a threat comes his way. You seem to be the one twisting things to suit your view~ The chain of events goes as follows Floyd moved to 147 beat Sharmba Mitchell. Beat Zab Judah Bought himself out from Arum to line up Oscar but Oscar wanted to wait and Floyd had to fight someone he picked Baldomir who was the champ and did not have to lock himself up with Arum. Floyd beat Baldomir Floyd beat Oscar became a star and made a bunch of cash Arum really starts to use Floyd name to build Margarito with the most feared man stuff. Floyd beats Hatton for another fat stack of cash. Floyd stops fighting because he has just made a mint and boxing is not a game that is very forgiving long term. Arum continues to use Floyd's name to build guys hype Floyd gets in some money trouble and comes back Floyd fights JMM in a fight JMM asked for and makes a bunch of cash. It also helps out GBP (who Floyd owed a favor to) by doing something for JMM. Floyd-Manny bull shit Floyd lines up Mosley which was the next best fight Floyd beats Mosley and makes even more money Floyd doesn't fight anyone because he doesn't need to at this point. The only pattern I see is Floyd fighting when he needs to~ and arum using Floyd's name to build hype for his guys~

If Floyd was that easy to beat he would have lost already, Margarito ain't nothing special. They presented the same threat level, the only thing different about them is hype. Floyd lost to Castillo the first time.

Because he was extricating himself from Arum, to get the money he would have had to resign which would have meant no Oscar. After that Arum used Floyd's name excessively to build guys names even though he wasn't even trying to work with Floyd and the feeling was mutual so your conclusion seems off to me. It had to do with money (a shot at Oscar) not fear, people didn't really care about that fight as Floyd wasn't even that big at that point it wasn't until after Oscar that Floyd got big and people really cared about him. Margarito is a dime a dozen in terms of historical relevance so making a big deal about him is pretty laughable. Blame it on Arum. Smh. Look you can twist and turn but at the end if the day Floyd was scared of Margarito. What's laughable is why Floyd was scared on someone that is nothing special. Most people want to see Floyd and Margarito - Floyd cherrypick Baldomir Most people want to see Floyd and Cotto -Floyd took a vacation. Most people want to see Floyd and PAC. Floyd took another vacation. There's always a routine for Floyd when a threat comes his way.

And why? And let's try to keep it on these two only instead of jumping to other era's not a really fair being as though Floyd has way more fights at that weight....Floyd beat the top dude in the division TWICE....still ran out the side door to avoid that undefeated Cotto though...not saying Cotto would've won...but at least Floyd would have a recent win that ppl would RESPECT to the fullest....I like the way he fought Shane...thats just me, I give him credit for that....but that Cotto win would've been sweeter than the Sugar one :cool2:

Yet he deliberately avoided Margarito like a plague. Say what you want on Mrgarito just like Floyd made excuses but at the end of the day, Floyd conveniently ducked him. That was the fight that most people want to see. Yep. Some people always conveniently forget what Mayweather said when he was asked about fighting Margarito. After stating that Margarito wasn't popular enough, Floyd said, "We not fighting to prove to the boxing fans who, who the best is..." Heart of a warrior right there. /s

Yet he deliberately avoided Margarito like a plague. Say what you want on Mrgarito just like Floyd made excuses but at the end of the day, Floyd conveniently ducked him. That was the fight that most people want to see. Because he was extricating himself from Arum, to get the money he would have had to resign which would have meant no Oscar. After that Arum used Floyd's name excessively to build guys names even though he wasn't even trying to work with Floyd and the feeling was mutual so your conclusion seems off to me. It had to do with money (a shot at Oscar) not fear, people didn't really care about that fight as Floyd wasn't even that big at that point it wasn't until after Oscar that Floyd got big and people really cared about him. Margarito is a dime a dozen in terms of historical relevance so making a big deal about him is pretty laughable.

If Floyd was that easy to beat he would have lost already, Margarito ain't nothing special. They presented the same threat level, the only thing different about them is hype. Yet he deliberately avoided Margarito like a plague. Say what you want on Mrgarito just like Floyd made excuses but at the end of the day, Floyd conveniently ducked him. That was the fight that most people want to see.

It still does not change the fact that margarito was more of a threat than Baldomir. In fact, Floyd was petrified on Margarito. If Floyd was that easy to beat he would have lost already, Margarito ain't nothing special. They presented the same threat level, the only thing different about them is hype.

So what Margarito was a very over rated fighter~ both are flawed fighters if your eyes can't tell you that your opinion means nothing. It still does not change the fact that margarito was more of a threat than Baldomir. In fact, Floyd was petrified on Margarito.

margarito ranked number 2 in 2002 margarito ranked number 3 in 2003 margarito ranked number 1 in 2004 margarito ranked number 1 in 2005 margarito ranked number 1 in 2006 margarito ranked number 4 in 2007 margarito ranked number 1 in 2008 baldomir came from obscurity to beat the 1-5 at welter(besides tune-ups) judah then vanished off the face of the earth. who was the journeyman and who was the top fighter? margarito or baldomir? So what Margarito was a very over rated fighter~ both are flawed fighters if your eyes can't tell you that your opinion means nothing.

And why? And let's try to keep it on these two only instead of jumping to other era's Floyd has more fights at WW. Pac better at lower weight

I don't give a sh*t if he lost... Thats his problem... Point is Oscar was making BIG moves in reaching to fight B-Hop for lineal MW and losing narrowly to Shane in his next-to-previous. Floyd beat a legit Oscar who was a comfortable WBC champ a JMW. Floyd has taken big breaks from boxing and still comes back and dominates. The Freddie Roach comment was conveniently said AFTER the fight with Floyd and before his fight with Manny... Couldn't pull the trigger but he somehow Knocked Out Mayorga in his previous.... INTERESTING MORE INTERESTING.... DLH hadn't seen 147 in 7 years!!!! you didn't want to bring that up huh??? You said, "I don't give a Sh*t who Oscar lost too" Boy, if it was Manny, you and your Floyd friends would have been all saying Manny fought guys that lost .... PLEASE!!! Roach saying that Oscar couldn't pull the trigger had nothing to do with Floyd. He said it to state that Manny has a chance against Oscar because he noticed in his last fight with Floyd, Oscar just couldn't pull the trigger .... AND HE WAS RIGHT!!! As for your Mayorga comment ... SO WHAT!!! Once Mayorga started fighting at 154+ again, he hasn't done anything and has been KO'd 4 times!

no. arum SELF-admittedly prevented the fight with cotto, hatton, marg and DLH b.c he didnt want to pay floyd the 10mil to fight cotto and hatton b.c he didnt think the public had enough interest in the fight to generate that kind of money. so STOP LYING. shall i post arums quote on the matter? floyd ducked cotto. i've already explained this multiple times but your brain is unable to process new iinformation or logic.

If anyone was a journeyman then, it was Margarito... The title he "captured" was vacant before him... Baldomir EARNED his title. Lets not beat around the bush anymore.... Margarito can fight Floyd 20 times and the result would be the same... Floyd by UD! 7 people have beaten Margarito!!!!! 7!!!!!!!! I think Floyd MIGHT be able to figure him out!!!!:kiss: margarito ranked number 2 in 2002 margarito ranked number 3 in 2003 margarito ranked number 1 in 2004 margarito ranked number 1 in 2005 margarito ranked number 1 in 2006 margarito ranked number 4 in 2007 margarito ranked number 1 in 2008 baldomir came from obscurity to beat the 1-5 at welter(besides tune-ups) judah then vanished off the face of the earth. who was the journeyman and who was the top fighter? margarito or baldomir?

no. arum SELF-admittedly prevented the fight with cotto, hatton, marg and DLH b.c he didnt want to pay floyd the 10mil to fight cotto and hatton b.c he didnt think the public had enough interest in the fight to generate that kind of money. so STOP LYING. shall i post arums quote on the matter? Blame it on Arum. Ha ha ha. Mosley, Cotto and Margarito all fought each other. Where was Floyd?