There is no reason for him to be in the P4P talks because he is retired. If that is the case then why not bring in Oscar and Tito?
Anyone that has him in the P4P rankings is a tool warehouse!
to me only fighters that are active and who have not come out and stated that he is retired should be ranked.
1. sergio martinez
2. manny pac
3. Nonito Donaire
This is another example of boxing people trying to be smarter and marganilize casual fans, IMO.
Ok so.....you remove Mayweather from the rankings and everyone here feels proud of themselves.....let's say ESPN throws those rankings on TV.
If you're a casual fan and don't follow this week to week - you are gonna sit there confused like....uhhh...WHERE THE HELL IS MAYWEATHER??
Would you rather Brian Kenny sit there and explain this drama as to why Floyd should be removed?? No, because it f'in stupid.
I've never seen so much concern over how quick someone should be removed from a imaginary P4P ranking lol.
It's the internet, what's the point of me being subliminal? LOL and no, I wasn't calling YOU out more than stating what is pretty evident when mentioning Floyd's opponents on this site (to his hardcores) and how high they were regarded on that "mythical" list.
What was the reason again Floyd's win over Mosley was so big?
IMO was the fact that Shane was the man at the welterweight division, after whooping Tony's tail. Manny turned down the 14 day offer from Floyd in the mediation, so Mosley was clearly the next best person for Floyd to fight. Floyd hadn't fought a "true welter" in a while and Mosley was the one to really test him.
If you were calling ME out, just do so. But you don't see ME on here talking about P4P this or P4P that, when comparing fighters and their opponents.
It's the internet, what's the point of me being subliminal? LOL and no, I wasn't calling YOU out more than stating what is pretty evident when mentioning Floyd's opponents on this site (to his hardcores) in relation to where they were on the "Mythical List".
What was the reason again Floyd's win over Mosley was so big?
Does he deserve to be ranked? No. He is too inactive. Does it even matter regardless? No.
Floyd is at the point where he does not need to be ranked. He has enough pull to fight any fighter, or for that matter, any belt real or imaginary he wants to. Most of us will even say he is still the most skilled fighter in the world and has the most financial pull.
Bullsh|t rankings mean nothing to him or Pacquiao. They are the two biggest financial bonanza's in the sport and to those directly involved, they will gladly give them what they want.
P4P rankings mean nothing anyway. They never have.
In which many fans of fighters hold highly when comparing their favorite fighters' past opponents with their potential or next opponent. Nah, never seen that happen on here though :biggthump
If you were calling ME out, just do so. But you don't see ME on here talking about P4P this or P4P that, when comparing fighters and their opponents.
LOL. Its a mythical list to begin with.
In which many fans of fighters hold highly when comparing their favorite fighters' past opponents with their potential or next opponent. Nah, never seen that happen on here though :biggthump
There is no reason for him to be in the P4P talks because he is retired. If that is the case then why not bring in Oscar and Tito?
Anyone that has him in the P4P rankings is a tool warehouse!
to me only fighters that are active and who have not come out and stated that he is retired should be ranked.
1. sergio martinez
2. manny pac
3. Nonito Donaire
Have whatever opinion you would like, but the logic in the bold is not sound at all. Why? Because he's fought much more recently than those two have.
Those fights don't make anyone P4P material. JMM is JMM at 135, not at 147 looking like cream filled cookie. Mosley being inactive and overtrained and clearly a shell also does not make someone P4P material. He won them, big deal. Not enough to be ranked P4P in my eyes.
I'm talking about being ranked P4P. If Pac beats Mayweather, it'll be good enough to keep him P4P. Mayweather beats Pac, then he can go back to the top spot. Its a legit win. My view is, Pac, if he doesn't blow out Mosley in 3-4 rounds, then his top spot is in danger as well. And if he selects another no-hoper, then he'll be off the top spot as well.
you cant say that Mosley was "clearly a shell" when he just destroyed the most feared & hottest man in boxing in Margarito. You can say he's clearly a shell at this moment but you are as good as your last fight and the fight before Floyd he looked like a monster
Who cares? I never understood why people care so much. Even the haterz have to admit he's a top fighter but nothing matters until he fights. Therefore I dont care if you have him 1st or 2nd or 3rd or not on the list at all. Just judge him when he fights.
Also, the guy talking about him fighting JMM & Mosley. JMM is still JMM. He can move up like anyone else and he's about to do it again soon. Both Floyd & Pac have moved up alot so I wont take alot of credit away from that like others here try to do.
Then the Mosley thing makes no sense. Who cares if he was off for 16 months? He had just trained for a Berto fight in which he did every single thing that he would do for a normal fight but get in the ring and he still is not nowhwere near as inactive as Floyd. I guess your saying that if Floyd comes back and loses to Pac or anyone else then it doesnt count because he's been so inactive
Those fights don't make anyone P4P material. JMM is JMM at 135, not at 147 looking like cream filled cookie. Mosley being inactive and overtrained and clearly a shell also does not make someone P4P material. He won them, big deal. Not enough to be ranked P4P in my eyes.
I'm talking about being ranked P4P. If Pac beats Mayweather, it'll be good enough to keep him P4P. Mayweather beats Pac, then he can go back to the top spot. Its a legit win. My view is, Pac, if he doesn't blow out Mosley in 3-4 rounds, then his top spot is in danger as well. And if he selects another no-hoper, then he'll be off the top spot as well.
Then the Mosley thing makes no sense. Who cares if he was off for 16 months? I guess your saying that if Floyd comes back and loses to Pac or anyone else then it doesnt count because he's been so inactive
All boxers are rusty now as none fight often. Fighting once a year or so like SSM did is hardly going to make him not rusty is it?
SSM just isnt that good when FLoyd beat him. SSM seems to have re invented himself with a win over SSM into some ferocios challenger for FLoyd.
True he isnt p4p material as he dont fight he wont lose. You cant be top on the basis of a couple of performances over how many years?
Its like in a recent poll, Floyd would be favoured to beat Pac? Pac will go down as a highter ATG and has the better resume, you might as well say hed be favoured to beat Floyd as well. He has the better resume so why shouldnt he be favoured to beat Floyd by everyone? So are we saying FLoyd is favourite to beat everyone in boxing history even though he hasnt got the resume.?
He's been off my P4P list since 2008, but that's just me. He retired officially in my eyes then, when Cotto and Margarito were top dogs.
He came back and fought JMM and a Mosley who was inactive for 16 months. Not enough to be P4P. (Here comes those that say Mosley was P4P #3. We get it, subjective mythical rankings are the end all be all)
I understand where you are coming from and i do understand that SSM was P4P4P #3 but then he just retires again. no it dont work that way
he needs to stay active and fight if not then he gets booted off the list
Who cares? I never understood why people care so much. Even the haterz have to admit he's a top fighter but nothing matters until he fights. Therefore I dont care if you have him 1st or 2nd or 3rd or not on the list at all. Just judge him when he fights.
Also, the guy talking about him fighting JMM & Mosley. JMM is still JMM. He can move up like anyone else and he's about to do it again soon. Both Floyd & Pac have moved up alot so I wont take alot of credit away from that like others here try to do.
Then the Mosley thing makes no sense. Who cares if he was off for 16 months? He had just trained for a Berto fight in which he did every single thing that he would do for a normal fight but get in the ring and he still is not nowhwere near as inactive as Floyd. I guess your saying that if Floyd comes back and loses to Pac or anyone else then it doesnt count because he's been so inactive
He's been off my P4P list since 2008, but that's just me. He retired officially in my eyes then, when Cotto and Margarito were top dogs.
He came back and fought JMM and a Mosley who was inactive for 16 months. Not enough to be P4P. (Here comes those that say Mosley was P4P #3. We get it, subjective mythical rankings are the end all be all)