I haven't seen anyone mention this but the way he behave after the defeat was horrible. The guy looked like he wanted to fight the ref or something I mean, come on, you get exposed for your ****ty defense, wide shots and lazy jab and you are going to fight the ref??? He saved you from being humiliated even worst. I hope Salido KTFO this clown again he doesn't deserve any credit at least lose with dignity and come back stronger.
Stop blaming the ref he called him a motherfvcker and a bastard COME ON MAN ACT LIKE A PRO.
Juanma thought that he could had continue and the ref didn't give him the chance. He had enough clearness in his head to complain and get upset. In the Mtagwa fight he survived, but also from the same fight he should had learned from it and didn't do anything new. A better fighter than Mtagwa, Salido took advantage of Lopez's weaknesses and finished the job
Maybe because I'm rican and I feel ashamed that Juanma behave that way and that Al Berstein got hit with water bottles and to see all this countrymen trolls blaming the ref on the forum. Don't you think I wanted Juanma to win? Sure, I was rooting for him and begging him to jab and to raise his left hand to block Salido's overhand right.
There's no shame in his loss. If anything he showed a big heart withstanding that assault in the 5th and making it out alive. In the heat of the moment people say stuff they may not mean or understand. The crowd was acting unsportsman like by throwing water bottles and ****.
Youi are what are. Not saying he can't try to learn to protect himself better but its like people here in NYC wanting Carmelo to step up his defense. Dude is a scorer. He is what he is. He would be a better player if he improved on the defensive end but it might not happen and I atleast appreciate him for what he is and trying his best.
I like Carmelo he is what he is but in boxing things are different YOU are the team there's nobody to help you win in the ring so you have to be good all around.
What I found more strange was that during the Salido v JuanMa fight, they had a poll that asked who was the greatest PR fighter and the answer was Tito.
I was shocked by that.
Young people don't know who Gómez, Benítez, ortíz were so I wasn't surprised.
He just tried to survive the fight after the 5th round and not get ko. Vs Margarito, the 2nd half of the fight he tried to box, while moving back and still landing shots. He didn't do sh*t vs Pac after the 5th round. I love'em both. I root for all of our fighters to win but I hate it when Cotto fans diss Juanma cuz I know they didn't like it when Tito fans dissed Cotto.
Dude I was rooting for Juanma but I knew it was a matter of time someone with a good chin and some power KO'ed him. But I was screaming GET THE LEFT HAND UP!!!!! JAAAAAAB!!!!!! HOLD!!!!!!!! DON'T RUSH IN WITH YOUR CHIN UP!!!!!
What I found more strange was that during the Salido v JuanMa fight, they had a poll that asked who was the greatest PR fighter and the answer was Tito.
I was shocked by that.
Al Bernstein agreed with Juanmas reaction to the stoppage. And noone other then maybe Prboxingcotto has said anything like "if it wasn't for the ref, juanma would have came back and knockedout Salido". It was just a bad stoppage. The ref should have waited. Juanma was in bad shae buit he wasn't out on his feet, leaning on the ropes like a ragdoll the way JLCastillo was vs Corrales.
He was hurt but could've continued but this loss should be good for him he fell in love with his power and forgot the jab he has a wonderful right hook though. He needs to drop that ego a little bit so he can learn new things like DEFENSE.
I never said that. U saying Juanma is dumb for fighting back when he was hurt and I said if that's the case, Cotto must be smart for running from Pacquiao. They was in simialr situations that's why brought up Cotto. And why u brought Quintana??? He wasn't hurt in that fight. He was stunned vs Judah. Wasn't really hurt vs Clottey but showed tremendous heart fighting with the cut. I give u Torres, he got up from the deck and actually came back and ko'd, much props for that. I'm a fan of Cotto more then Juanma but don't diss Lopez like that man. In defeat, I would rather go down like Juanma swinging instead of running like the way Cotto did.
I agree I would rather go out like Juanma too. Cotto did try against Pac he got up in the 3rd round and kept trading shots and in the 4th round he was hurt even worst then he tried to box he was just trying to win the fight.
Listen man theres no point in complaining it will always be like this on NSB.Half the ****ers that call these guys bums have never been hit before
agree!!!!!!!
I'm just tired of coming to NSB and seeing the same old negative threads.
"Boxer X sucks"
"Boxer X is overated"
"Boxer X is a disgrace"
"Boxer X is a bum"
"Boxer X is a ducker"
"Boxer X cherry picks"
"Boxer X cheats on his wife"
The crap is tiring. You would think the average boxing fan that logs into NSB is a young female.
Opinions are like belly buttons everybody has one. I'm criticizing Juanma's behavior that almost cause a riot in Bayamón, not juanma personally. I care about him as much as he cares about me personally.
I'm just tired of coming to NSB and seeing the same old negative threads.
"Boxer X sucks"
"Boxer X is overated"
"Boxer X is a disgrace"
"Boxer X is a bum"
"Boxer X is a ducker"
"Boxer X cherry picks"
"Boxer X cheats on his wife"
The crap is tiring. You would think the average boxing fan that logs into NSB is a young female.
Listen man theres no point in complaining it will always be like this on NSB.Half the ****ers that call these guys bums have never been hit before
So he was upset, its not that big of a deal and I don't see why you care TS:bottle::bottle:
Maybe because I'm rican and I feel ashamed that Juanma behave that way and that Al Berstein got hit with water bottles and to see all this countrymen trolls blaming the ref on the forum. Don't you think I wanted Juanma to win? Sure, I was rooting for him and begging him to jab and to raise his left hand to block Salido's overhand right.
Some of these threads are so stupid.
JuanMa isn't a disgrace, he's a solid fighter who lost for the first time in his career.
What people don't understand is that when you get KO'd, you are the last person in the world that understands or realizes how seriously hurt you are.
In the gym I have seen it a million times, after a dude get's KO'd his first words were, "what happened" or "I wasn't that hurt".....lol
I'm just tired of coming to NSB and seeing the same old negative threads.
"Boxer X sucks"
"Boxer X is overated"
"Boxer X is a disgrace"
"Boxer X is a bum"
"Boxer X is a ducker"
"Boxer X cherry picks"
"Boxer X cheats on his wife"
The crap is tiring. You would think the average boxing fan that logs into NSB is a young female.
All JuanMa did was protest. He's allowed to be emotional at that time. He was just getting his friggin head punched in and in front of his countrymen.
I doubt the TS would have the stones to fight another man of equal size in front of his wife and children much less do what JuanMa did.
Boxing fans like the TS need to learn respect for the sport of boxing and its participants.
Negative threads filled with disparaging comments about boxers is not helping our sport.
Ok boxing savior LOL I do respect boxers a lot, I love boxing but boxers should respect the referees too all I'm saying.
So just because he's a boxer he needs to follow a particular CODE OF CONDUCT?
Why don't you hold yourself to those same standards?
Your post was filled with bad language and negative judgement.
At least JuanMa has an excuse, he was just removed from the HEAT OF BATTLE.
You on the other hand are sitting in front of a computer, doing God knows what, with a clear state of mind. Yet you still created a negative and disrespectful thread.
Don't throw stones...
Because you're not in front of a computer doing god knows what. I don't mind the insults that much but wanting to hit the ref here for you and Juanma :bottle:
All JuanMa did was protest. He's allowed to be emotional at that time. He was just getting his friggin head punched in and in front of his countrymen.
I doubt the TS would have the stones to fight another man of equal size in front of his wife and children much less do what JuanMa did.
Boxing fans like the TS need to learn respect for the sport of boxing and its participants.
Negative threads filled with disparaging comments about boxers is not helping our sport.
Ok he's stupid cuz he stood there and fought back and Cotto was smart cuz he ran for dear life vs Pacquiao???? Come on man, that's dumb bro. Juanma showed a lot of heart regardless of anything. And the ref stopped it at the wrong time. If Al Bernstein didn't like the stoppage, how do u think Juanma felt about it???? He would rather get ko then stopped like that.
Because Pacquiao and Salido are in the same level Come on man stop that Cotto has done the same Juanma did Torres, Judah, Quintana, Clottey??? Cotto just didn't want to exchange with Pac cause he was losing that way after the 4th round.
I'm just stating a un profesional immature behavior from a "pro boxer"
So just because he's a boxer he needs to follow a particular CODE OF CONDUCT?
Why don't you hold yourself to those same standards?
Your post was filled with bad language and negative judgement.
At least JuanMa has an excuse, he was just removed from the HEAT OF BATTLE.
You on the other hand are sitting in front of a computer, doing God knows what, with a clear state of mind. Yet you still created a negative and disrespectful thread.
Don't throw stones...