Victor Ortiz vs Mike Jones anyone??

You too hype over Ortiz overwhelming Berto,imo Jones is better then Berto he best not fight the same way he fought Berto.. man, you did not obviously read my other comment after it. jones is an interesting match, but the way he fights, i think ortiz can take advantage of that and deff take a decision, if not stop him. it's not overrating ortiz, it's just he showed what he is capable of last night. the dude in your avi isn't a proven fighter either, buddy. trust me, i hate when people overhype a fighter after a big win. but i was a bit of an ortiz fan before this. last night he showed what he was capable of doing when he put his mind to it. the way jones fights, i just think ortiz can take advantage of it, possibly catch him with constant pressure and finish him off, if not score KDs or have big rounds. either way, it would be a great fight because jones has skills, pretty good power, and is undefeated for a reason, i just would be rooting for ortiz is all.

not even sure mike jones beats berto....they are on the same level imo..

i mentioned solomon as to prove a point that there are multiple fighters at welterweight (that aren't named mayweather or pac) who in my opinion would give ortiz a hell of a fight. jones, kelly, & solomon are guys that aren't known but in my opinion would at the very least give ortiz all he could handle. jones would beat ortiz. ortiz would have a punchers chance & nothing more. I always felt that jones would beat berto.......hell, collozo beat berto. I am glad that i don't have to deal with him anymore. & your last point. this is why i said that solomon would beat ortiz.....foot speed. if you look at the peterson fight you will see that peterson was outboxing ortiz mostly because of his legs.....its a matter of styles. solomon also knows exactly what to do with ortiz on the inside. solomon is extremely fundamentally gifted & darts out & in like a cheater. i think it would look like peterson vs ortiz but at a much worser level for ortiz.......i already knew he was gonna beat berto I was one of the only ones to say it when the fight was being discussed. I knew it....because berto doesn't have any kind of committed game plan. he fights all over the place.......thats how callozo beat him. my only point was let ortiz fight guys like solomon, jones, kelly, before we all speak of the pacs & mayweathers of the world. dude, if you take a look at my other posts discussing ortiz and potential matchups in WW, you'll see that all i want is for him to fight guys like solomon, jones, or brook (i even mentioned them before in other posts). i never said for him to take fights against manny or may, im actually against him jumping into those fights...he is not ready in any way. for a jones match, i just see ortiz being able to pressure him to the point where jones can't back up and fight the way and at the pace he wants, ortiz is capable of it, and has power to do some damage. as for solomon, he's been looking good, but i just don't think he can frustrate ortiz for an entire 12 rounds. peterson did frustrate ortiz, but ortiz dropped him earlier, he backed off of him for some stupid reason and let him get back in the fight. im pretty sure ortiz, this time around, with new found confidence and his belt on the line, i just don't see him making that mistake again.... either way, i know solomon and jones are good fighters ( i did get a bit carried away with my first comment, im just not sold on jones) but yeah, i agree with you...ortiz is better off defending his belt to natural WWs and getting used to that weight and gaining more experience before trying to cash himself in for a megafight with either manny/floyd.

Ortiz KOs him. Mike Jones ain't ready.

hell yeah, make it happen! ortiz will take another fighter's 0 i deff think ortiz can stop him. jones is a good fighter, but i think ortiz will deff overwhelm him. You too hype over Ortiz overwhelming Berto,imo Jones is better then Berto he best not fight the same way he fought Berto..

I'm taking Mike Jones I think he has the stuff to beat either Ortiz or Berto whichever..

i don't get where people are now saying ortiz is the 3rd best welterweight......& would run through fighters like jones. they are doing the same thing in which made me hate berto. OVERRATING him. the simple truth is i don't even think that ortiz would know what to do with a guy like solomon let alone pac. there are fighters in the welterweight division (even taking out pac) who would beat ortiz. i never said ortiz was the 3rd best. i got mad from his quote in the post presser where he said he wants the big names, i wished he would just try to fight natural WWs and get used to it...i was referring to jones and than solomon came out of nowhere...i saw that fight you posted, he's good. but he's never been hurt a lot or faced defeat. ortiz has a bit more experience imo (losing and coming back with a performance like he did last night, as well as having like 15 more pro fights then solomon), and hell of a lot more power...i don't see solomon beating ortiz. jones is an interesting match, but the way he fights, i think ortiz can take advantage of that and deff take a decision, if not stop him. it's not overrating ortiz, it's just he showed what he is capable of last night.

hell yeah, make it happen! ortiz will take another fighter's 0 i deff think ortiz can stop him. jones is a good fighter, but i think ortiz will deff overwhelm him.

Why?! Mike Jones would just get gassed out around the 4th round, like always, and then get KTFO by Ortiz.... just lookin for diff opinions :boxing:

Why?! Mike Jones would just get gassed out around the 4th round, like always, and then get KTFO by Ortiz....

I guess it depends on if you consider Ortiz that much better then Karass. Which I do. Ortiz by mid round TKO.

Jones gets waxed by Ortiz. Jones is worst than Berto. say it to his face

Jones gets waxed by Ortiz. Jones is worst than Berto.

IDK, I see the taller Jones outboxing him in a bore fest... (I will continue to think little of Ortiz and let him prove me wrong if he can, becuz its more fun that way)

screw that bum

Perhaps a catch weight? Maidana has outgrown JWW and won't be down there much longer. But a catch weight of 144 or 145 would be best, so both guys can be comfortable. well maidana said he might even go to 154 so i thinjk he can make 147 idk

I think it would be a good scrap. i think so to brother

I think it would be a good scrap.

Jones still needs a couple fights.

does he have to do it at 140 or 147 bro??? Perhaps a catch weight? Maidana has outgrown JWW and won't be down there much longer. But a catch weight of 144 or 145 would be best, so both guys can be comfortable.