Berto never recuperated from that first round KD.
I think the rematch would be closer !!!
And if Berto gets knocked down early again? Will he recuperate or will he show the effects of it during the entire fight again?
First of all, that was a great fight.
Second, Dan Rafael is crazy. There is no way Berto won that fight!
I scored it 116-109 for Ortiz.
Rafael scored this fight for Berto? That is disgusting.
I had a feeling they were trying to keep Berto undefeated. I was scared if it went to the cards that Berto would get the nod.... He WAS knocked down, and the ref gave him a break there, and he kept putting his head out to get hit in the back of the head and the ref took a point. The ref was getting on my nerves bad... Ortiz overcame much adversity to win this fight... Nobody was on his side... I am with all you guys, very one sided beatdown, yet one of the cards had it as close as 1 round. It is shameful.
I said if Ortiz didn't get the nod I would never watch boxing again.
I'm just happy justice was served and Ortiz got the victory he earned.
9 to 3 Ortiz.....he dominated that fight. There were a couple close rounds, and I gave those to Berto, but I think Berto was shook up after round 1, not scared but his legs were lost. Ortiz hurt him badly. Great fight though.
didn't bother with all the point deductions, had it 8-3-1 ortiz. Would have been 9-3 if not for that bullsh** point deduction in the tenth.
115-110...........................
i had what lederman had (harold not his daughter) 115-110. 8 ortiz, 3 berto, 1 even.
berto could in no possible way won 9,10,11,12. NO WAY. all he was doing was hugging and throwing one haymaker at a time. he also could not possibly have won 1,3, or 7 or 8 (i had berto winning one of those and the other was a demolishing by ortiz).
did rafael really have berto winning that fight?
First of all, that was a great fight.
Second, Dan Rafael is crazy. There is no way Berto won that fight!
I scored it 116-109 for Ortiz.
I think I gave Berto a Maximum of 3 rds!
I gave Berto 2 rounds and that was even generous, watch the fight two hours ago and Ortiz landed more, was the aggressor and was really up for the fight stamina-wise, Berto on the other hand didn't know what to do, I didnt think he expect an aggresive, dirty, in your face, non quitting Ortiz, He hit Ortiz hard but instead of victor folding he too threw hard punches back but in bunches, impressive performance from Ortiz, He answer all question in one fight, for him to even get up from the 6th round KD was shocking to me and Berto but to go on and KD Berto in the same round made Berto demotivated from that round onwards.... He and his corner knew they were in for a tough night and might end up losing the fight.
I think that was one of Berto's main problems. He underestimated Ortiz big time. I think he thought that if he landed one clean bomb he would stay down and just "quit". But when Ortiz kept getting up, kept the non-stop pressure and the high volume punching, Berto didn't know what to do.
I gave Berto 2 rounds and that was even generous, watch the fight two hours ago and Ortiz landed more, was the aggressor and was really up for the fight stamina-wise, Berto on the other hand didn't know what to do, I didnt think he expect an aggresive, dirty, in your face, non quitting Ortiz, He hit Ortiz hard but instead of victor folding he too threw hard punches back but in bunches, impressive performance from Ortiz, He answer all question in one fight, for him to even get up from the 6th round KD was shocking to me and Berto but to go on and KD Berto in the same round made Berto demotivated from that round onwards.... He and his corner knew they were in for a tough night and might end up losing the fight.
First of all, that was a great fight.
Second, Dan Rafael is crazy. There is no way Berto won that fight!
I scored it 116-109 for Ortiz.
I had the same score,it was not that close..
First of all, that was a great fight.
Second, Dan Rafael is crazy. There is no way Berto won that fight!
I scored it 116-109 for Ortiz.
9 rounds for Ortiz, 1 for Berto, 2 Even