I notice rios had popped up a bit on this thread personally I think a good boxer like Robert gerrero takes this guy apart rios is a strong tough fighter but like Ricky hatton I think he will struggle with slick world class boxers
Canelo and Lopez the token Mexican and token Rican? LOL! FOH!
1. Gamboa
2. Donaire
3. Martinez
4. Mares
5. Bradley
6. Brandon Rios
7. Segura
8. Khan
9. Berto
10. Ortiz
Jose Benavidez could make a strong run if he continues to improve at the same rate.
Here's mine based on the fact that by 2016 manny , floyd , Martinez and cotto will all be retired
1: nonito donaire
2: yurokis gamboa
3: Amir khan
4: Andre ward
5: j m Lopez
6: James degale
7: tim bradley
8: Jose benevadiz
9: frankie Gavin
10 : frankie Gomez
Possible contenders
Nathan cleverly
Saul Alvarez
Chad Dawson
Alexander povetkin
;10359084']1)Amir Khan
2)Andre Ward
3)Nonito Donaire
4)Andre Berto
5)Yuriorkis Gamboa
6)JuanMa Lopez
7)Lucian Bute
8)Brandon Rios
9)Lucas Matthysse
10)Saul Alvarez
Mikey Garcia, and Andy Lee are not far behind either.
lol at andy lee being the next p4p when barely beat a young up and coming fighter....canelo aint nothing special but since he is oscar's biggest draw( which is very impressive) they might him put him there just for the hell of it....lucas mathysse?.....damn, where do you base that choice, judah?...lol
1. Yuriorkis Gamboa
2. Nonito Donaire
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Andre Ward
5. Robert Guerrero
6. Saul Alvarez
7. Lucian Bute
8. Andre Berto
9. Amir Khan
10. Abner Mares
(that's 4 guys who have first names starting with A, and 2 Andres)
Who has be beaten?
Miranda? a faded Kessler? Allan Green? Bika?
I don't rate Froch but he is has better wins than hometown Ward.
Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell and Abraham.
I just don't rate the supersix competition that highly
Fair enough, but the same faded Kessler gave Froch a very close fight afterwards and even won the decision. People will always underrate the win because of the headbutts (I think they were accidental), but Ward really made Kessler look bad with his inside fighting, I still think that was a great fight from him.
3 years from today best case scenario, Ward beats AA, considering the super six has been moving slowly, next fight not till November, Lets say Johnson beats Froch, Ward beats Johnson, Fights Froch in 2012 around March, fights Bute July - August 2012, after that he will have some.choices, possibly Martinez moves up, Pavlik goes on a nice winning streak maybe beats Froch or Johnson fo a shot, that puts him in early 2013, Ward either moves up or continues to fight top contenders he's number 1, but IMO he wins the super six and beats Bute he is number 1
Well, winning the Super Six will give him an even bigger boost. Afterwards, there are no real challenges other than Bute, and I thinks he beats him as well. Andre might be boring to a lot of people, but I like how he can mix it up. He has the inside fighting and roughhouse tactics to frustrate and tire everyone, but he is also a very talented boxer, of which we will see quite a bit against Abraham, I believe.
If he steps up to light heavy, I would favour him against most too. I think very highly of Chad Dawson, but at this point you have to question his mindset and Andre Ward would have the exact right style to frustrate the hell out of him. Cloud would be a very dangerous matchup, not sure how well he would take his power punches... But other than that, he is one of the surest things in any weight class to dominate his division in three years (not that this means much in boxing, a lot can happen in three years).
Seriously why is Ward rated so highly?
Is it just a lazy option.
Who is he going to be fighting in 3 years?
Dirrell? Then move up to light heavy to get beaten by Dawson.
Maybe in 3 years he would have plucked up enough courage to leave the hometown. I wouldn't hold your breath tho.
He is a very versatile fighter who has already beaten good competition. But most importantly you listen to him talk and you know he is serious about the sport of boxing.
As for potential fights their is Froch Steglitz Pascal Dawson Cloud and others who'll emerge
1. Nonito Donaire
2. Andre Ward
3. Amir Khan
4. Chad Dawson
5. Yuriorkis Gamboa
6. Abner Mares
7. Robert Guerrero
8. Roman Gonzalez
9. Juan Manuel Lopez
10. Timothy Bradley
Fringe: T.Cloud, J. Pascal, L.Bute
Assuming that Pacquiao, Mayweather, Martinez, JM Marquez and the Klitschkos are all retired in three years.
The only top10 sure things for me are Donaire, Ward (if he keeps winning after the Super Six), Khan (if he overcomes Bradley), the winner of Gamboa-Juanma and Chad Dawson, who I think will come back to his winning ways, there's just too much potential. Abner Mares has very good chances as well, the rest are pretty much longshots even for only 3 years.
1 Andre Ward
2 David Haye/Odlanier Solis
3 Ismayl Syllakh
4 Guillermo Rigondeaux
5 Nonito Donaire
6 Jose Benavidez
7 Gennady Golovkin
8 David Haye/Odlanier Solis
9 Amir Khan
10 Gary Russell Jr
If Martinez and Ward continue what they are doing, They will be 1 and 2, assuming manny is retired but like I already said if Ward beats AA, Froch or Johnson, Bute he should be number 1 p4p. Bradley will be 4 Nonito 3, no Amir Khan, I love Dawson but if he is he will be very low, if Berto continues to step up comp he will be there, Gamboa possibly or Lopez depending on who wins their match up.
so I will say Ward, Martinez, Donaire, Bradley in order with the possibles being Gamboa, Berto, Dawson and Lopez