Who had the better win over Juan Diaz overall?
Nate Campbell
-First man to beat him
-Diaz was coming off a big winning streak where he had just unified all 3 belts
-Landed over 400 punches on Diaz
-Did not get rocked or beat up as much as JMM
-Big underdog going into the fight
JMM
-Knocked out Diaz
-Diaz was coming off a win over Katsidis
-Diaz would go on to get a controversal win against Malignaggi
-Marquez landed 288 punches on Diaz
-Fight of the year by Ring Magazine
Dude you're wrong...
Didn't see that one, got confused with dates, just trying to say Paulie rocked Diaz right after Marquez...that's why I think Campbell's win was better than Marquez since he clearly wasn't the same
I still beleive was on something.
Yeah. Right. Would be just as easy to say Diaz was blood doping considering his great stamina...
Suck it up. JD got beat at his own game by an older, but more determined guy. Not only that, but Campbell was the one that figured out and exploited the fact that Diaz could be thrown off his game by being cut.
I still beleive was on something..Since Diaz what did he accomplish? HE quit on bradley and the rest he just didnt show up. He turns back time against Diaz and then what he fizzled out? Marquez was more impressive. New weight,Kod dude thats never been kod before.
Campbell was the first boxer to beat Diaz, that, no matter how he did it should already trump Marquez's wins.
But, Marquez was only the 2nd boxer to beat Diaz, and the first to knock him out, and I honestly don't think any one else will knock Diaz out any time soon.
BTW it's not fair to compare how many punches they landed, because Marquez only went 8 and a half rounds with Diaz while Campbell went all 12. So who knows how many punches Marquez was gonna land in 12 rounds at the pace that fight was heading.
^^Paulie Malignaggi beat him before Marquez (Two times in my books) but gotta agree with that
That was Marquez' second fight at lightweight and to knock Diaz out seems more impressive from a guy with almost no experience at 135. Rocking Marquez is not impressive and irrelevant. Even knocking him down doesn't guarantee that you are going to beat him.
Campbell's only edge is that he beat him while being undefeated so if we talk about better I think Campbell fought the better version for 6 or 7 rounds.
Definitely Nate because he stopped a buzz saw at the time in Diaz.
Marquez just showed the difference in class between him and Diaz. Diaz is a really good fighter, JMM is an ATG.
Campbell was the first boxer to beat Diaz, that, no matter how he did it should already trump Marquez's wins.
But, Marquez was only the 2nd boxer to beat Diaz, and the first to knock him out, and I honestly don't think any one else will knock Diaz out any time soon.
BTW it's not fair to compare how many punches they landed, because Marquez only went 8 and a half rounds with Diaz while Campbell went all 12. So who knows how many punches Marquez was gonna land in 12 rounds at the pace that fight was heading.
Paulie Malignaggi beat him first (Two times in my book)
But gotta agree
I think you gotta' give it to Campbell:
1) He was the first fighter to beat Diaz.
2) He went right into Diaz' wheelhouse and whupped him in front of his crew.
Both were great fights and props to JD for great efforts in both. :boxing:
agreed^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you gotta' give it to Campbell:
1) He was the first fighter to beat Diaz.
2) He went right into Diaz' wheelhouse and whupped him in front of his crew.
Both were great fights and props to JD for great efforts in both. :boxing:
Better win?
Nate.
More Impressive?
Marquez, but if I remember correctly he got rocked a few times by a pillow fisted fighter, so that drops the impressive factor a bit.
Campbell was the first boxer to beat Diaz, that, no matter how he did it should already trump Marquez's wins.
But, Marquez was only the 2nd boxer to beat Diaz, and the first to knock him out, and I honestly don't think any one else will knock Diaz out any time soon.
BTW it's not fair to compare how many punches they landed, because Marquez only went 8 and a half rounds with Diaz while Campbell went all 12. So who knows how many punches Marquez was gonna land in 12 rounds at the pace that fight was heading.
marquez's win was much more impressive. watch the campbell fight. the only reason he won that fight was because of the nasty cut that diaz got on his eye. you can tell his eye was bugging him and he couldn't adjust. in the fight with marquez, diaz was probably wining most of the rounds but marquez was able to weather the storm and break diaz down. that was a great fight.
Gotta go with Marquez.
Diaz was looking great in that fight and still got the piss beat out of him, not trying to make excuses but Diaz didn't look that great to me against Campbell.
I'll have to re-watch Campbell vs. Diaz I haven't seen it in about 3 years.
I think the Campbell one is the best, simply because that fight really made the Galaxy Warrior's career. Plus he defeated a prime, young lion who was steam rolling opponents. Baby Bull was never the same after that fight