Does berto get enough credit????

i would like to see Bailey pick up Berto and throw him out of the ring WrestleMania hangover Mak?????

He's a better option than Freddie and inactive quintana. I don't recall people ****tin on timmeh for his abregu figt for the comp level, unless they thought he shoulda done better. Or that they thought Tim should stay at 140. Tim's my boy, Im sensitive about him. Why is Abregu a better option than Freddie or Quintana. I can deal with the Quintana one, cause he was for the most part inactive leading up to the fight(I remember jokers on here talkin bout how Quintana was gonna school Berto, they wasn't talkin bout no inactivity before the fight). But The only thing I give Abregu over Freddie is a better KO/TKO ratio, and the fact that he was undefeated before Timmy, thats all. As far as resume, I give Freddie the edge.

I can sanction this one. But most on this site will still holla "Cintron!!!! oh, uh, Mike Jones!!!!!!! Berto needs to fight those dude's instead of Senchenko" Cant fukk with that one Bruhnlaw. Even if he fought Abregu before Timmy moved up in weight to scrap him, he woulda caught flack. Most didn't even agree with Timmy taking the Abregu fight. So we know that if Berto would take such a fight, it would be a cardinal sin round here. He's a better option than Freddie and inactive quintana. I don't recall people ****tin on timmeh for his abregu figt for the comp level, unless they thought he shoulda done better. Or that they thought Tim should stay at 140. Tim's my boy, Im sensitive about him.

Bailey at least fought ww before. His last fight was at ww. Bailey is a certified threat vs anyone. I would personally like to see that fight. Yea, I know bruh. But Bailey's rep is established at 140 more so than 147. I would give him credit, cause Bailey has the potential to end any night with one shot. I was surprised that Urango got off the canvas after taking a flush Bailey shot. I would like to see the fight too. But you know how jokers are on here it will be discredited as soon as it was signed.

Sure indeed Brunlaw. I can dig this choice. No indeed Bruhnlaw, I cant entertain this choice. He wont get any credit for beating Randall, even though Bailey is a banger. Everyone will talk about how Bailey is a JWW, and Berto is picking on JWWs again. Besides aint Urango beat him after being floored off of a left from Bailey? Yea, then we'd have jokers on here talkin bout how he(Berto)is a bum for goin after Urango's leftovers. :nonono: Bailey at least fought ww before. His last fight was at ww. Bailey is a certified threat vs anyone. I would personally like to see that fight.

vyacheslav senchenko......(sp) I can sanction this one. But most on this site will still holla "Cintron!!!! oh, uh, Mike Jones!!!!!!! Berto needs to fight those dude's instead of Senchenko" luis carlos abregu.................................... Cant fukk with that one Bruhnlaw. Even if he fought Abregu before Timmy moved up in weight to scrap him, he woulda caught flack. Most didn't even agree with Timmy taking the Abregu fight. So we know that if Berto would take such a fight, it would be a cardinal sin round here.

luis carlos abregu.................................... damn nice avi walt.....:wank:

selyuk aydin.......................................... Sure indeed Brunlaw. I can dig this choice. even randall bailey................. No indeed Bruhnlaw, I cant entertain this choice. He wont get any credit for beating Randall, even though Bailey is a banger. Everyone will talk about how Bailey is a JWW, and Berto is picking on JWWs again. Besides aint Urango beat him after being floored off of a left from Bailey? Yea, then we'd have jokers on here talkin bout how he(Berto)is a bum for goin after Urango's leftovers. :nonono:

luis carlos abregu....................................

vyacheslav senchenko......(sp)

even randall bailey.................

selyuk aydin..........................................

I agree that he hasnt fought the best comp but how are yall gonna hate because he got a sweet deal on his money. Get out his pockets! so as long as he gets his you don't care if it infringes on HBO's budget and puts a strain on what fights can be made? stupid train of thought

but you should for the very reasons I expressed because he is getting paid 7 figures guaranteed the competition level should match and it should concern you as a boxing fan because it does take away from HBO's budget when he fights. As it stands HBO's budget is smaller than it was two years ago so any fight where Berto is on there and isn't tested is a waste of valuable air time and $$$ towards their budget Im from ireland we dont have HBO but i see where ur comin from..

bein honest i dont care wot he or anyone else for that matter gets paid.I do agree would like him to be in with a cotto,personally i think he edges that one.it just seems he dont have much of a following for a man who ticks many boxes?? but you should for the very reasons I expressed because he is getting paid 7 figures guaranteed the competition level should match and it should concern you as a boxing fan because it does take away from HBO's budget when he fights. As it stands HBO's budget is smaller than it was two years ago so any fight where Berto is on there and isn't tested is a waste of valuable air time and $$$ towards their budget

It is easier to look good when he is matched up with a fighter that is naturally smaller or a skill level below his speed. There are european and russian fighters that he can fight but do not have much exposure here in Zaveck, Senchenko, Aydin, Ion or fight with the tough Soto-Karass. Berto hasn't done anything but sign a lucrative contract with minimum gaurantees, why should he risk it? He will be at the sidelines waiting for his big money fight to come. He is a non-player in the big picture and all he has is an undefeated record and a paper belt

Won a vacant belt against.....???:dunno: Has not defended against serious comp IDK what skill you see, having fast hands does not = skill sure he can crack, we have to give him that.[/QUOTE You really not thnk he has quite a bit of skill??puts punches together well with speed and power and also nice bit of head movement....Im not sayin he's p4p #1 just a better fighter then people generally give credit for...

all he has to do is keep fighting and give the fans the FIGHTS THEY WAN TO SEE...and the credit will come he is not going to get a match with Mayweather or Pacquiao so if he beats Ortiz, they he should focus on maybe fighting Mike Jones, if not Jones then a rematch with Luis Collazo or a match with Cintron but he can't just sit around waiting for a fight with Pacquiao or Mayweather and take a bunch of BULLSH!T matches and not expect the fans to bash him Berto has incredible talent...especially offensively, has some of the fastest hands in boxing and I think he has the BEST UPPERCUTS IN BOXING today and I don't think his chin is "WEAK" like some people say it is, every time he was hurt he recovered very well and recovered quickly...I don't consider that a "WEAK CHIN"...when Berto FIGHT HIS FIGHT he can be extremely hard to beat, but when he leaves the game plan and tries to "IMPRESS THE CROWD" like he did against Collazo and tries to get into a "BRAWL"...that is when all of his weakness becomes exposed...ESPECIALLY HIS DEFENSE

a bein honest i dont care wot he or anyone else for that matter gets paid.I do agree would like him to be in with a cotto,personally i think he edges that one.it just seems he dont have much of a following for a man who ticks many boxes??

Who has Berto beat?