This man retired 34-0. Why is he not considered an all time great?

joe calzaghe on the cowardly sven ottke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XM_GGVdLiI&feature=player_detailpage#t=278s Joe needs a mirror

joe calzaghe on the cowardly sven ottke http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XM_GGVdLiI&feature=player_detailpage#t=278s

I'll wait to hear you talk about 'Yank *******' when you are forced to submit to Sharia law...can't even rule your own island... What?? where did that come from??

Its got fuk all to do with the win number its not notches on a gunslinger handle , its the wins over what opponent , time in relation to the form of the opponents when you fight them , and its got a lot to do with seeing them fight and judging what your looking at ,,,, blend it all together and score well everywhere and then you can start thinking possible ATGs ,,, how the fuk do you win an imaginary quest based on opinion ,,,, this is obviously a slap at Floyd and its pretty lame and narrow minded .

Joe would've walked to America to take on those Yank pusses. Those Yankies have been tamed. I'll wait to hear you talk about 'Yank *******' when you are forced to submit to Sharia law...can't even rule your own island...

http://www.boxingdaily.co.uk/wp-content/img/2008/04/hopkins-suffers-low-blow-by-calzaghe.JPG

wait... I'm still not 1000% sure that this whole thread is meant to be a comedy skit. I'm having a difficult time sensing sarcasm through my monitor, especially with the variety of these posts.

In no way was Manfredo going to win but that stoppage was terrible, looked like a girlfight the way he was slapping, I feel bad for Manfredo.

I'm a hardened boxing fan who watches specifically for the violence, and I always get sickened to my stomach watching that. Makes JC's devastating KO of "Pistol" Pete Manfredo look like a girlish slapfest. Oh...wait. the mundine KO was brutal but didn't manfredo spend 6 months in a coma after the calzaghe knockout? at least that's what i heard from a british poster so it must be true.

non puncher? you feeling alright? ottke could punch. records can be so deceiving. this guy was no joe calzaghe racking up slappy wins against guys that weren't even hurt. His KO of mundine is certainly more impressive than most of Joe's "KOs"

Ottke beat both Michael Moorer and Antonio Tarver in the amateurs among others. Maybe he got some "gifts" as a pro, but that's pretty impressive for a non-puncher. non puncher? you feeling alright? ottke could punch. records can be so deceiving. this guy was no joe calzaghe racking up slappy wins against guys that weren't even hurt.

Joe Calzaghe and Sven both undefeated at the same era and are within each others division. I think we will see more and more retiring undefeated fighters in the future.

Yup. Yet Joe's fans downplay him? Why. Those names are as impressive as anything Joe ever did. Damn impressive. 1. Joe 2. Ottke 3. Roy 4. Toney 5. Froch 9,999. Jean Pascal Honourable mention: Bernard Hopkins

Ottke beat both Michael Moorer and Antonio Tarver in the amateurs among others. Maybe he got some "gifts" as a pro, but that's pretty impressive for a non-puncher. Yup. Yet Joe's fans downplay him? Why. Those names are as impressive as anything Joe ever did.

Joe would've walked to America to take on those Yank pusses. Those Yankies have been tamed. rotfl.....................

is this the same joe calzaghe that was scared of flying? (only to go to america to fight though, flying on holidays was ok) Joe would've walked to America to take on those Yank pusses. Those Yankies have been tamed.

is this the same joe calzaghe that was scared of flying? (only to go to america to fight though, flying on holidays was ok) Remember when dirk and his buddies tried to deny that on that other thread? Only to ignore links that showed Joe said that (therefore lied about flying). hahaha. Cowards do tend to conveniently ignore facts in order to push their agenda.

Ottke was scared shiitless of the great Joe Calzaghe. Just like Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins and James Toney. Its nothing to be ashamed of really. is this the same joe calzaghe that was scared of flying? (only to go to america to fight though, flying on holidays was ok)

Ottke was scared shiitless of the great Joe Calzaghe. Just like Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins and James Toney. Its nothing to be ashamed of really. Was this kind of like how Joe was scared ****less of Glen Johnson and rematches with Hopkins? Nice job following me around like a hurt dog. hahahahhaa

calzaghe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ottke