Most deceiving title defense streaks

Ivan Calderon- 11 title defenses, only fought 3 top ten ranked minimumweights(Leyva, Reyes, Bustos). Never unified Joe Calzaghe- 21 title defenses, only fought 7 10 top ten ranked super middleweights(Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy, Kessler, Manfredo Jr). Did unify. edit: added Manfredo, missed him. Zsolt Erdie- 11 title defenses, only fought 2 10 top ten ranked light heavyweights(Garayx2), never unified Chris John- 13 title defenses, only fought 4 top ten ranked featherweights(JMM, Enoki, Juarezx2), never unified Andre Berto- 5 title defenses, only fought 1 top ten welterweight(Collazo), never unified Juan Carlos Gomez- 10 title defenses, only fought 1 top Cruiserweight(Dominguez), never unified Darius Michalczewski- 23 title defenses, only fought 4 top ten light heavyweights(Rocchigianix2, Griffin, Hill) This has to take the cake. Artur Grigorian- 17 title defenses, 0 title defenses against top ten lightweights.(nobody). never unified. Title defenses mean very little in this day and age.

Comments (20)

AntDawg

a shot lacy couldn't beat a shot roy jones,wow Man I don't believe he is shot. Just was never that good. besides even he was thats no excuse to not even win a round against a old shot Jones...Considering he was supposed to be like the next Mike Tyson :lol1:

15y ago

crold1

Isn't that whats happening with Pongsaklek Wongjongkam right now? Wong's career looks better as time goes on as bested foes have done more after him. Naito, Miranda, and even the lately rejuvenated Tunacao all look better in retrospect than they did at the time. That said, Wong will and should suffer for never even having engaged in a unification fight in a decade (00's) which was really strong at 112 talent wise. he shouldn't be BLAMED for it in weights that low (the markets just work different there for the most part) but it can be held against him. For now, Sosa is going to be a solid challenge this year. On Galaxy, he beat enough good fighters (Pical, Orono, Espinal, Contreras, Ford, Kim) to validate his HOF creds. Galaxy was a monster.

15y ago

Weebler_I

he actually fought 8 top 10 rated guys. manfredo was in the top 10 so that shows you just how crappy that division was. 8 out of 21 defenses. pathetic. i mean all time great. calzaghe also never unified with the other long reigning champ in the division sven ottke. both guys racked up 21 title defenses in the same exact division at the same exact time. how is that possible! 1999. 1. sven ottke 2. joe calzaghe 2000. 1. sven ottke 2. joe calzaghe 2001. 1. sven ottke 2. joe calzaghe 2002. 1. joe calzaghe 2. sven ottke 2003. 1. joe calzaghe 2. sven ottke lol daggum, you really hate the guy. What did ole Joey do that was so bad? were you a big B-Hop, Lacy or RJJ fan?

15y ago

Steak

I think a case can be made any 'record reign' made without full claim to the title from jump is deceiving to some degree. very true. thats why I singled out some of the more deceiving ones.

15y ago

Elotero

What about Khaosai Galaxy ?, 19 defenses at Flyweight and they was all against nobodies, his promoters kept him in Thailand in a stacked division at the time and didn't pit him against any of them. Isn't that whats happening with Pongsaklek Wongjongkam right now?

15y ago

daggum

I think a case can be made any 'record reign' made without full claim to the title from jump is deceiving to some degree. if calzaghe is an all time great then you agree sven ottke, omar narveaz and zsolt erdei are as well?

15y ago

crold1

Hopkins beat Lipsey, Jackson, Allen, Echols, Echols, Holmes, Trinidad, Daniels, Joppy, Allen, DLH and Eastman. All top ten. So I dont think you could include him on this list. He just fought in a really weak division. I think a case can be made any 'record reign' made without full claim to the title from jump is deceiving to some degree.

15y ago

Steak

who were those 16 opponents and what have they done?calzaghe gets aloty of flak for lacy not doin anything after losing to calzaghe so what did any of those fighters do that hopkins beat?hopkins and calzaghe are mirror images of eachother 2 fighters that dominated ****ty divisions but i guess since hopkins is american he gets more credit for doin the same thing calzaghe did Hopkins beat Lipsey, Jackson, Allen, Echols, Echols, Holmes, Trinidad, Daniels, Joppy, Allen, DLH and Eastman. All top ten. So I dont think you could include him on this list. He just fought in a really weak division.

15y ago

daggum

calzaghe 8 out of 21 title defenses against top 10 ranked opponents ottke 9 out of 21 title defenses against top 10 ranked opponents http://i55.tinypic.com/1zwkaxw.jpg

15y ago

figzuki

He's talking about Calderon run at 105. Hence 11 title defenses at minimumweight. Cazares was the lineal champ at 108. so even more credit to Calderon maybe?

15y ago

jrosales13

Cazares was a top 10 in the division. He's talking about Calderon run at 105. Hence 11 title defenses at minimumweight. Cazares was the lineal champ at 108.

15y ago

jrosales13

tell me what ur argument is man, let me hear this.... Because, you act as if the TS is questioning his skills/talent or what Calderon is capable of doing in the ring. That's not what the TS is questioning at all, he's just pointing out that most of Calderon title defenses didn't come against the toughest competition. Do you see a difference? :dunce:

15y ago

oc9979

Cazares was a top 10 in the division.

15y ago

figzuki

^^^:stupid:^^^ tell me what ur argument is man, let me hear this....

15y ago

jrosales13

how did calzaghe dominate his division compared to hopkins? hopkins fought every top fighter in the division and fought twice as many top 10 opponents. how is that the same? When Calzaghe was "dominating" his division, there was another "undefeated" fighter with 20 something title defenses in his division. During B-Hop reign, how many other MW's had double digits title defenses? Yea they're the same alright :pat:

15y ago

daggum

who were those 16 opponents and what have they done?calzaghe gets aloty of flak for lacy not doin anything after losing to calzaghe so what did any of those fighters do that hopkins beat?hopkins and calzaghe are mirror images of eachother 2 fighters that dominated ****ty divisions but i guess since hopkins is american he gets more credit for doin the same thing calzaghe did how did calzaghe dominate his division compared to hopkins? hopkins fought every top fighter in the division and fought twice as many top 10 opponents. how is that the same?

15y ago

jrosales13

so deceiving that now Segura is ranked #10 p4p after beating Calderon, so deceiving..... ^^^:stupid:^^^

15y ago

letsgobrady

Even before he fought Joe he struggled with C- level fighters...I never understood what anyone saw in him. Dude couldn't even win a round against a shot old ass Roy Jones lol... a shot lacy couldn't beat a shot roy jones,wow

15y ago

figzuki

so deceiving that now Segura is ranked #10 p4p after beating Calderon, so deceiving.....

15y ago

letsgobrady

hopkins had 16 out of his 20 title defenses against top 10 rated opponents. he also fought everyone who was rated number 1 through out his reign(except simon who went to jail right after becoming number 1. how is that deceiving? who were those 16 opponents and what have they done?calzaghe gets aloty of flak for lacy not doin anything after losing to calzaghe so what did any of those fighters do that hopkins beat?hopkins and calzaghe are mirror images of eachother 2 fighters that dominated ****ty divisions but i guess since hopkins is american he gets more credit for doin the same thing calzaghe did

15y ago