P. Williams vs Angulo/kirkland

Williams beats both IMO.. The question is who will Williams have a harder time with. Personally, Kirkland will give Williams waaaaay more trouble that Angulo because Kirkland is a wild puncher; he could catch Williams and end his night. I dont think Williams' chin is shot at all. And as many shots that he has taken in his career (including the powershots from Martinez in their 1st fight), Im truly shocked that he hasnt gotten KO'd early in his career. IMO his chin is waaaay above average. Angulo is really a Margo clone with better boxing ability and power. He doesnt have much footwork/movement and I dont think he could outclass Williams. And Williams has plenty pop in his shots as well, his style just doesnt allow him to sit on punches all the time. If he really sits on it, and catches either one of those guys, dont be surprised to see Angulo or Kirkland out for the count. I agree that Angulo does not have good footwork but with Pwilly style he won't need it Pwilly will be eager to exchange and get KO'd..IMO he beats Kirkland and might even KO him..He will not KO Angulo,in fact I wish that fight would happen I would not only bet on Angulo but place a side bet on Angulo stopping him..

Williams beats both IMO.. The question is who will Williams have a harder time with. Personally, Kirkland will give Williams waaaaay more trouble that Angulo because Kirkland is a wild puncher; he could catch Williams and end his night. I dont think Williams' chin is shot at all. And as many shots that he has taken in his career (including the powershots from Martinez in their 1st fight), Im truly shocked that he hasnt gotten KO'd early in his career. IMO his chin is waaaay above average. Angulo is really a Margo clone with better boxing ability and power. He doesnt have much footwork/movement and I dont think he could outclass Williams. And Williams has plenty pop in his shots as well, his style just doesnt allow him to sit on punches all the time. If he really sits on it, and catches either one of those guys, dont be surprised to see Angulo or Kirkland out for the count.

Williams chin is ****in shattered. El perro or Kirkland would KHTFO. I don't know about Kirkland KO'ing Pwilly he(imo)does not have one shot KO power(although he is a good puncher)..Let's not for get Pwilly can bang himself and Kirkland has been stunned on several occasions,it's not a reach to believe Pwilly KO's Kirkland imo..

Williams chin is ****in shattered. El perro or Kirkland would KHTFO.

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I feel both are compelling, all action fights that would be great for boxing but in the end I got PWill win one by UD and one by KO/TKO.

Its funny how people think Angulo and Kirkland have HALF the skill of Martinez. Gimme a break. Paul beats both.

Neither can beat him,now.Maybe in a couple of years when they test the waters on an elite level.I'll put it like so,they have as much chance of beating the Punisher as they have landing a fight with Pacman at 154 without any weight stipulation,yeah,that's right no chance right now. No shot??I totally don't agree with this,Pwilly's chin has been broke now and we don't even know for sure if he will ever fully recover..I'd give either a good shot esp with Pwilly's willingness to bang...

Neither can beat him,now.Maybe in a couple of years when they test the waters on an elite level.I'll put it like so,they have as much chance of beating the Punisher as they have landing a fight with Pacman at 154 without any weight stipulation,yeah,that's right no chance right now.

Lets be real here. DID EVERYBODY FORGET ABOUT MARGARITO-WILLIAMS? I love Kirkland and all but he still hasn't fought nobody the caliber of Williams. Williams would just outwork them both and finish them late because of the pace he sets that I don't think Kirkland or Angulo could handle. They'd be great fights but we just haven't seen Kirkland against that caliber of fighter yet. So Williams obviously is the favorite but Kirkland could definitely pull it out I think. And Angulo don't bring nothing to the table that prime Margarito brung so Williams would probably take him out as well. Angulo brings something that Margas does not have and that's one punch KO power bro..IMO Angulo is better then Marga's he has power never stops punching(which was Margas main weapon workrate)and has a chin of stone..IMO he KO both of these guys,but Kirkland is the better fight..I believe Pwilly would take his shots better,I also would not be surprised if both fighters tasted the canvas in this scrap..

You do know paul williams is a south paw My mistake

Cintron is actually a lot slicker than he gets credit for, Paul was lunging in with lead power punches i don't call that trying to box.

i think williams outpoints both, but would have an easier time with kirkland

When PWill starts to fight on the outside develop a good jab and use the straight right he beats everyone at JMW or near enough everyone. You do know paul williams is a south paw

True but when you got the biggest reach in boxing P4P, are always taller than your opponent and have been viciuosly knocked out in your last fight and lost the fight before (Martinez was robbed) its time to change. If it IS broke you got to fix it. I know his measurements would make you think that he should be more of a boxer but i think in his case his pressure come forward style is his best bet. When you watch the first few rounds against Cintron he was being outclassed when he tried to box.

Thats like saying if Malignaggi was a power puncher he would be the top ww. Williams is who he is and thats still good enough to give most guys problems. True but when you got the biggest reach in boxing P4P, are always taller than your opponent and have been viciuosly knocked out in your last fight and lost the fight before (Martinez was robbed) its time to change. If it IS broke you got to fix it.

Lets be real here. DID EVERYBODY FORGET ABOUT MARGARITO-WILLIAMS? I love Kirkland and all but he still hasn't fought nobody the caliber of Williams. Williams would just outwork them both and finish them late because of the pace he sets that I don't think Kirkland or Angulo could handle. They'd be great fights but we just haven't seen Kirkland against that caliber of fighter yet. So Williams obviously is the favorite but Kirkland could definitely pull it out I think. And Angulo don't bring nothing to the table that prime Margarito brung so Williams would probably take him out as well. I see what you're saying but Margarito doesnt have the one punch ko power that Angulo and Kirkland have.

When PWill starts to fight on the outside develop a good jab and use the straight right he beats everyone at JMW or near enough everyone. Thats like saying if Malignaggi was a power puncher he would be the top ww. Williams is who he is and thats still good enough to give most guys problems.

Unless Williams has changed his style dramatically I think he probaly would lose to both. I just don't see Williams holding on against the pressure those 2 would apply. I think it depends on how well his chin would hold up because if he could take their punches he would have a decent shot of getting a decision. .

When PWill starts to fight on the outside develop a good jab and use the straight right he beats everyone at JMW or near enough everyone.